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Post by mumuchi Wed 06 Nov 2013, 7:41 pm

Ok ini citer V bombers dari

Versi british

Dan

Versi OZ

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Post by mumuchi Wed 06 Nov 2013, 7:44 pm

Cess versi british tak leh link fasal indo* tak lepas..

CCP dan buang "" pada n tu..

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Post by sajareg Thu 07 Nov 2013, 4:32 am

Yang para indo* lepas ke johor tu naik kapal terbang ke mendarat laut ? Rasanya terjun kan ? maybe commonwealth punya ROE kena bom yang jatuh, bukan paratroop?

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Post by mumuchi Thu 07 Nov 2013, 6:30 am

Kat johor naik charlie.

Rujuk mukadepan Straits Times kat sini===>Microfilm ST 3 Sept 1964
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Post by yaminz Thu 07 Nov 2013, 12:17 pm

marc_zman wrote:
yaminz wrote:
marc_zman wrote:
yaminz wrote:bukan nyer Konfrantasi da tamat dulu bro, misi dbatalkan...
nope.. dari apa yg wa paham.. itu heavy bomber akan hanya di deploy sekiranya pihak indonesia 'declare' all out war dgn Malaysia.. sebelum konfrantasi start pun kalu x salah itu heavy bomber mmg ada sekali sekala turun sini.. kene ingat UK mmg ada byk kepentingan kat asia masa tu.. & masa tu pun komunis tgh berkembang
nope la, british amalkan restricted rules of engagement, Indonesia TNI-AU bom dulu baru British RAF/RAAF bom...
adey.. apparraaa.. mmg ler masa tu British ada appled restricted rules of engagement.. tapi.. kalu negara yg sedang berkonfrantasi dgn kita pi hantar pesawat dia kasik bom kita secara terbuka.. tebabooooo dia pi bom kem tau pangkalan udara tau laut tentera kita.. errr.. tu bukan kira "declare" all out war ka?

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so ada yg kena serangan udara ms tu? kan konfrantasi nama nyer... limited engagement. British pun tau diorg nyer limitation, mau invite kuasa dunia yg lain masuk campur... Soviet... jadi advantage kat PKI... Susah ooo CIA masuk jarum...
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Post by marc_zman Thu 07 Nov 2013, 1:56 pm

sajareg wrote:Yang para indo* lepas ke johor tu naik kapal terbang ke mendarat laut ? Rasanya terjun kan ? maybe commonwealth punya ROE kena bom yang jatuh, bukan paratroop?
IMO.. level pencerobohan ni masih dikira sebagai kecil dan terkawal.. senang cakap.. ancaman yg ada semuanya bersifat ancaman subversif serta gerila..

lain ler kalu 1 bgd para indone drop kat johor ke haper.. tu mmg dah hantar mesej jelas tu
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Post by marc_zman Thu 07 Nov 2013, 2:05 pm

yaminz wrote:
marc_zman wrote:
yaminz wrote:
marc_zman wrote:
yaminz wrote:bukan nyer Konfrantasi da tamat dulu bro, misi dbatalkan...
nope.. dari apa yg wa paham.. itu heavy bomber akan hanya di deploy sekiranya pihak indonesia 'declare' all out war dgn Malaysia.. sebelum konfrantasi start pun kalu x salah itu heavy bomber mmg ada sekali sekala turun sini.. kene ingat UK mmg ada byk kepentingan kat asia masa tu.. & masa tu pun komunis tgh berkembang
nope la, british amalkan restricted rules of engagement, Indonesia TNI-AU bom dulu baru British RAF/RAAF bom...
adey.. apparraaa.. mmg ler masa tu British ada appled restricted rules of engagement.. tapi.. kalu negara yg sedang berkonfrantasi dgn kita pi hantar pesawat dia kasik bom kita secara terbuka.. tebabooooo dia pi bom kem tau pangkalan udara tau laut tentera kita.. errr.. tu bukan kira "declare" all out war ka?

isk isk isk
so ada yg kena serangan udara ms tu? kan konfrantasi nama nyer... limited engagement. British pun tau diorg nyer limitation, mau invite kuasa dunia yg lain masuk campur... Soviet... jadi advantage kat PKI... Susah ooo CIA masuk jarum...
adeh deh deh.. sakit urat pewut wa ni Razz Razz Razz
lain pulak yg dia paham yer
ikut suka hang ler stadz
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Post by yaminz Thu 07 Nov 2013, 2:05 pm

marc_zman wrote:
sajareg wrote:Yang para indo* lepas ke johor tu naik kapal terbang ke mendarat laut ? Rasanya terjun kan ? maybe commonwealth punya ROE kena bom yang jatuh, bukan paratroop?
IMO.. level pencerobohan ni masih dikira sebagai kecil dan terkawal.. senang cakap.. ancaman yg ada semuanya bersifat ancaman subversif serta gerila..

lain ler kalu 1 bgd para indone drop kat johor ke haper.. tu mmg dah hantar mesej jelas tu
yup betul...
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Post by yaminz Thu 07 Nov 2013, 2:08 pm

marc_zman wrote:
yaminz wrote:
marc_zman wrote:
yaminz wrote:
marc_zman wrote:
yaminz wrote:bukan nyer Konfrantasi da tamat dulu bro, misi dbatalkan...
nope.. dari apa yg wa paham.. itu heavy bomber akan hanya di deploy sekiranya pihak indonesia 'declare' all out war dgn Malaysia.. sebelum konfrantasi start pun kalu x salah itu heavy bomber mmg ada sekali sekala turun sini.. kene ingat UK mmg ada byk kepentingan kat asia masa tu.. & masa tu pun komunis tgh berkembang
nope la, british amalkan restricted rules of engagement, Indonesia TNI-AU bom dulu baru British RAF/RAAF bom...
adey.. apparraaa.. mmg ler masa tu British ada appled restricted rules of engagement.. tapi.. kalu negara yg sedang berkonfrantasi dgn kita pi hantar pesawat dia kasik bom kita secara terbuka.. tebabooooo dia pi bom kem tau pangkalan udara tau laut tentera kita.. errr.. tu bukan kira "declare" all out war ka?

isk isk isk
so ada yg kena serangan udara ms tu? kan konfrantasi nama nyer... limited engagement. British pun tau diorg nyer limitation, mau invite kuasa dunia yg lain masuk campur... Soviet... jadi advantage kat PKI... Susah ooo CIA masuk jarum...
adeh deh deh.. sakit urat pewut wa ni Razz Razz Razz
lain pulak yg dia paham yer
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Post by mumuchi Thu 07 Nov 2013, 2:35 pm

Ustad cer baca analisis USA ni..nak tengok apa ko faham..

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Post by marc_zman Thu 07 Nov 2013, 2:53 pm

mumuchi wrote:Ustad cer baca analisis USA ni..nak tengok apa ko faham..

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omak aihhh.. berpinor mata wa baca weh
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Post by yaminz Thu 07 Nov 2013, 2:58 pm

mumuchi wrote:Ustad cer baca analisis USA ni..nak tengok apa ko faham..

Foreign Relations 1964-1968, Volume XXVI, Indonesia; Malaysia-Singapore; Philippines  
TAR claim Indonesia ingin mmusnahkan Malaysia dan myahkan org barat dr rantau ASEAN, sama mcm Komunis punyer cara.

Tp US punyer support mcm divided, sokong Malaysia tp pada ms yg sama cuba tidak Anti-Indonesia scara lahiriah sbab US mpunyai hubungan baik dgn Sukarno...

Nampak US ada option tok mjatuhkan Sukarno, sbab diorg nampak Sukarno mrupakan seorg yg mnimbulkan masalah...

Relative nyer Konfrantasi antara Malaysia-Indonesia tidak sburuk yg dsangkakan -> CIA claims...
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Post by mumuchi Thu 07 Nov 2013, 3:02 pm

dan orang kita memandai buat statement 1 ayat je...
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Post by yaminz Thu 07 Nov 2013, 3:14 pm

apa US military aid kat Malaysia pada masa konfrantasi tu? mcm xda pun...
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Post by mumuchi Thu 07 Nov 2013, 3:39 pm

armored personnel carriers and anti-aircraft guns)
possible helicopter sales to Malaysia,

(a) Prime Minister's request to President that he moderate terms of credit for purchase of helicopters

however, GOM clearly does expect concession on terms for helicopter purchase, and I have recommended we give consideration to moderating those terms.)

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Post by yaminz Thu 07 Nov 2013, 3:46 pm

mumuchi wrote:armored personnel carriers and anti-aircraft guns)
possible helicopter sales to Malaysia,

(a) Prime Minister's request to President that he moderate terms of credit for purchase of helicopters

however, GOM clearly does expect concession on terms for helicopter purchase, and I have recommended we give consideration to moderating those terms.)

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yup tu yg US consider possible military aids... APC/Anti-aircraft/Helikopter... sy maksud yg da dbawa masuk k malaysia... physical asset..,.
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Post by tin Fri 08 Nov 2013, 11:16 am

APC - V100

anti aircraft - tarak

helo - Bell 407 dgn Sikorsky S-61A4
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Post by yaminz Fri 08 Nov 2013, 11:24 am

tin wrote:APC - V100

anti aircraft - tarak

helo - Bell 407 dgn Sikorsky S-61A4
jap bell 407, first flight 1995 & introduced dlm 1996... scratch scratch scratch 
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Post by tin Fri 08 Nov 2013, 11:28 am

eh typo. should be Bell 47 heheheh...
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Post by marc_zman Fri 08 Nov 2013, 11:32 am

tin wrote:eh typo. should be Bell 47 heheheh...
emmm.. wa ada kenal sorg 'pilot' Bell-47 ni
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Post by yaminz Fri 08 Nov 2013, 11:40 am

tin wrote:eh typo. should be Bell 47 heheheh...
tu versi awam la abe tin, kita xda... nie versi military, Bell H-13 Sioux baru kita ada guna...
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