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Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by HangPC2 Mon 02 Dec 2013, 3:32 pm
Describing the destruction of an ancient Hindu temple in Kedah as nothing short of “ cultural barbarism ”, an opposition MP has called on Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak and Menteri Besar Mukhriz Mahathir to break their silence on the matter.
Padang Serai MP N Surendran said the nation is stunned by the destruction of the ancient temple structure dating from the 8th century in the historic Bujang Valley archaelogical site.
“ The destruction, carried out by a private developer, is an act of cultural barbarism, comparable to the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas by the Taliban.
“ It is a shame and embarrassment to our country, ” added the PKR vice-president.
Bujang Valley, said Surendran, is the most important archaeological site in Malaysia, and is famed throughout Southeast Asia.
The destroyed Candi Number 11, he added, was a tangible part of Malaysian history and invaluable to the nation.
“It is simply incomprehensible that the area was not gazetted as a historical site. How could the federal government and Kedah government allow this to happen?” he asked.
'What's the use of Culture and Tourism Ministry?'
Surendran also took the state government to task for its excuse that the land was privately owned, calling this “pathetic and unacceptable”.
“ Why did the Kedah state authorities give the necessary approvals for development to proceed, knowing full well that the area is historically significant ?
“ The Kedah government and authorities have displayed breathtaking irresponsibility and cultural philistinism in allowing the development to proceed, ” he added.
The federal government, he said, also has a positive duty to ensure that historically significant sites are preserved.
“ What is the use of having a Ministry of Culture and Tourism if the nation's heritage is so easily destroyed for private profit ? How do we answer for this cultural vandalism to future generations of Malaysians ? ” he added.
The PKR leader called on the Kedah government and the federal government to take urgent and effective steps to protect the Lembah Bujang archaeological site.
“ We demand that the state government immediately issues a stop work order for the development projects at the site.
“ We further call for the urgent preservation of the debris and wreckage of Candi No 11 with a view towards repair and full restoration.
“ Meanwhile both Najib and Mukhriz must break their silence on this matter. The people are entitled to an explanation, ” he added.
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by HangPC2 Mon 02 Dec 2013, 4:57 pm
After uproar, Kedah scrambles bid to salvage Lembah Bujang ruins
By Opalyn Mok
December 1, 2013
GEORGE TOWN, Dec 1 — Stung by the public’s ire over the apparent inaction that allowed a 1,200-year-old temple ruin in Lembah Bujang to be destroyed, the Kedah government said it was engaging a university to determine how to preserve what was left of the prehistoric archaeological site.
Kedah state executive councillor for Youth, Sports, Arts, Culture and Heritage and Non-governmental Organisations Aminuddin Omar the administration has tapped Universiti Sains Malaysia’s (USM) Centre for Global Archaeological Research that was conducting a study on parts of the archaeological site.
“ State executive councillor Datuk Tajul Urus Mat Zain is now discussing with USM’s Professor Mokhtar Saidin on how to go about handling this issue, ” he said in a telephone interview today.
“ We may need to study the whole area carefully to pinpoint which parts of the valley that needs to be protected, ” he added.
Earlier, Azmi sought to fend off accusations that the government had stood by as a developer bulldozed the ancient site, saying it was powerless to prevent this as the land was not only on privately owned but also not gazetted as a historical site.
Yesterday, Penang’s Deputy Chief Minister II Prof Dr P.Ramasamy confirmed that candi number 11, temple ruins with Hindu influences near Sungai Batu, had been dug up and cast aside in a pile of debris by a developer clearing the land for a residential housing project.
Ramasamy had visited the site following hearing reports of the demolition and was disgusted that the developer was getting away with destroying an important piece of Malaysia’s history.
The Perai state assemblyman will be writing to Badan Warisan Malaysia to take action against the developer for destroying parts of a significant archaeological site.
Lembah Bujang, in the Merbok district of Kedah, is the richest archaeological site in Malaysia with more than 50 ancient candi or temple ruins at the site.
Most of the candi are in ruins, and some have been reconstructed and moved to a site near the Bujang Valley Archaeological Museum.
Candi number 11 was rebuilt back in 1970s by an archaeological team at its original site near the Sungai Batu.
Most of the candi ruins in the valley dates back to more than 2,000 years ago and research had showed that candi 11 is believed to be built between the 11th and 13th century.
Lembah Bujang is also home to the oldest man-made structure recorded in Southeast Asia - a clay brick monument nearly two millennia old.
Excavations on the site have uncovered jetty remains, iron smelting sites and relics with Hindu and Buddhist influences that point towards a Hindu-Buddhist Kingdom that traces as far back as 110 CE.
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By Opalyn Mok
December 1, 2013
GEORGE TOWN, Dec 1 — Stung by the public’s ire over the apparent inaction that allowed a 1,200-year-old temple ruin in Lembah Bujang to be destroyed, the Kedah government said it was engaging a university to determine how to preserve what was left of the prehistoric archaeological site.
Kedah state executive councillor for Youth, Sports, Arts, Culture and Heritage and Non-governmental Organisations Aminuddin Omar the administration has tapped Universiti Sains Malaysia’s (USM) Centre for Global Archaeological Research that was conducting a study on parts of the archaeological site.
“ State executive councillor Datuk Tajul Urus Mat Zain is now discussing with USM’s Professor Mokhtar Saidin on how to go about handling this issue, ” he said in a telephone interview today.
“ We may need to study the whole area carefully to pinpoint which parts of the valley that needs to be protected, ” he added.
Earlier, Azmi sought to fend off accusations that the government had stood by as a developer bulldozed the ancient site, saying it was powerless to prevent this as the land was not only on privately owned but also not gazetted as a historical site.
Yesterday, Penang’s Deputy Chief Minister II Prof Dr P.Ramasamy confirmed that candi number 11, temple ruins with Hindu influences near Sungai Batu, had been dug up and cast aside in a pile of debris by a developer clearing the land for a residential housing project.
Ramasamy had visited the site following hearing reports of the demolition and was disgusted that the developer was getting away with destroying an important piece of Malaysia’s history.
The Perai state assemblyman will be writing to Badan Warisan Malaysia to take action against the developer for destroying parts of a significant archaeological site.
Lembah Bujang, in the Merbok district of Kedah, is the richest archaeological site in Malaysia with more than 50 ancient candi or temple ruins at the site.
Most of the candi are in ruins, and some have been reconstructed and moved to a site near the Bujang Valley Archaeological Museum.
Candi number 11 was rebuilt back in 1970s by an archaeological team at its original site near the Sungai Batu.
Most of the candi ruins in the valley dates back to more than 2,000 years ago and research had showed that candi 11 is believed to be built between the 11th and 13th century.
Lembah Bujang is also home to the oldest man-made structure recorded in Southeast Asia - a clay brick monument nearly two millennia old.
Excavations on the site have uncovered jetty remains, iron smelting sites and relics with Hindu and Buddhist influences that point towards a Hindu-Buddhist Kingdom that traces as far back as 110 CE.
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by atreyudevil Mon 02 Dec 2013, 6:11 pm
Private Developer?
Tanah persendirian ka
Tanah persendirian ka
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by sajareg Mon 02 Dec 2013, 6:14 pm
Kalau asal rebuilt , boleh la kot rebuild. Jangan batu2 tu dah kena campak dah la.
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Mon 02 Dec 2013, 6:38 pm
camne tapak warisan sejarah boleh jd tapak persendirian... tiada warta k?
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by sajareg Mon 02 Dec 2013, 6:41 pm
Dah lama dah candi tu jumpa, tapi tak dapat taraf kawasan sejarah ke apa?Earlier, Azmi sought to fend off accusations that the government had stood by as a developer bulldozed the ancient site, saying it was powerless to prevent this as the land was not only on privately owned but also not gazetted as a historical site.
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Mon 02 Dec 2013, 6:47 pm
kalo xsilap, stiap tapak sejarah akan di gazette kan scara auto kan?sajareg wrote:Dah lama dah candi tu jumpa, tapi tak dapat taraf kawasan sejarah ke apa?Earlier, Azmi sought to fend off accusations that the government had stood by as a developer bulldozed the ancient site, saying it was powerless to prevent this as the land was not only on privately owned but also not gazetted as a historical site.
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by marc_zman Tue 03 Dec 2013, 8:48 am
bak mai Kanun Tanah Negara.. jom kita baca ramai-ramai
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Tue 03 Dec 2013, 9:32 am
boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by alphawolf Tue 03 Dec 2013, 11:30 am
Kalau ikut papaer, developer kata, takde mention apa2 dalam geran...tanah tu pun dia ambik dari developer sebelum ni.
Marah betul ek MP Pdg Serai...padahal bukan dalam area dia pun...heheh
Marah betul ek MP Pdg Serai...padahal bukan dalam area dia pun...heheh
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by HangPC2 Tue 03 Dec 2013, 11:42 am
sajareg wrote:Dah lama dah candi tu jumpa, tapi tak dapat taraf kawasan sejarah ke apa?Earlier, Azmi sought to fend off accusations that the government had stood by as a developer bulldozed the ancient site, saying it was powerless to prevent this as the land was not only on privately owned but also not gazetted as a historical site.
keliling kawasan ladang kelapa sawit...
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by marc_zman Tue 03 Dec 2013, 11:47 am
soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Tue 03 Dec 2013, 11:51 am
soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by alphawolf Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:21 pm
Pasal candu tak sepower LSD...tahun 70an kannnyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by alphawolf Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:23 pm
Apa2hal ni tunjukkan kita sebenrnya kurang peka dengan pemuliharaan artifak dan tempat bersejarah. Tu candi yang dah masuk beribu tahun...ni WW2 punya battlefield usah cite la....
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:25 pm
yup... ekekeke... silap spelling error...candi...alphawolf wrote:Pasal candu tak sepower LSD...tahun 70an kannnyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
rasa nyer xpenah dgazetkan... kalo x boleh jadi tpt mnarik tok industri perlancongan... tp berselerak plak, payah gak nak jaga...
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by marc_zman Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:27 pm
jeng jeng jengyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
cuba tgk apa yg gomen dah buat
kalu dah namanya manusia bernama ahlul politik
hanya kerana satu insiden.. diperbesarkan bagai
serious wa tanya.. itu ahlul politik sudah lawat ka muzium Lembah Bujang
Sos Kicap
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:27 pm
Yup betul abg alpha, byk tpt2 bersejarah tidak terjaga... kalo djaga, industri pelancongan & pendidikan juga untung...alphawolf wrote:Apa2hal ni tunjukkan kita sebenrnya kurang peka dengan pemuliharaan artifak dan tempat bersejarah. Tu candi yang dah masuk beribu tahun...ni WW2 punya battlefield usah cite la....
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by marc_zman Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:32 pm
kalu x silap wa mmg ada kawasan yg dah digazetkan.. & sowi to say Ostadz.. mmg dah lama wujud Muzium Arkeologi Lembah Bujang.. wa berani bet yg hang tak pernah sampai lagik kan? no prob.. org Malaysia mmg camtu.. kalu muzium negara sendirik mmg tarak heran.. cuba kalu kat negara luor.. sanggup perabih duit tuk masukyaminz wrote:yup... ekekeke... silap spelling error...candi...alphawolf wrote:Pasal candu tak sepower LSD...tahun 70an kannnyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
rasa nyer xpenah dgazetkan... kalo x boleh jadi tpt mnarik tok industri perlancongan... tp berselerak plak, payah gak nak jaga...
& kalu wa tak silap sekitar pertengahan 2000an ke haper.. diorg ada jumpa kawasan baru.. sebab tu kalu korang lalu jalan raya dari tanjung dawai ke sg petani ikut area merbok tu.. korang leh nampak ada kerja-kerja arkeologi kat satu ladang kelapa sawit.. mmg korang xkan miss punyer.. masih dlm kawasan kelapa sawit tapi kat tepi jalan jer
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:33 pm
patut lebih proaktif lg... bila da report kat paper baru mgelabah satu malaysia... kan da jadi mainan politik...marc_zman wrote:jeng jeng jengyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
cuba tgk apa yg gomen dah buat
kalu dah namanya manusia bernama ahlul politik
hanya kerana satu insiden.. diperbesarkan bagai
serious wa tanya.. itu ahlul politik sudah lawat ka muzium Lembah Bujang
Sos Kicap
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:36 pm
takat nei penah pegi muzium negara, muzium di melaka, muzium d sarawak da byk kali masuk... muzium2 tpt len, lum penah pegi lagi... xpenah lak abiskan duit pegi muzium kat luar negara lg... ekekekemarc_zman wrote:kalu x silap wa mmg ada kawasan yg dah digazetkan.. & sowi to say Ostadz.. mmg dah lama wujud Muzium Arkeologi Lembah Bujang.. wa berani bet yg hang tak pernah sampai lagik kan? no prob.. org Malaysia mmg camtu.. kalu muzium negara sendirik mmg tarak heran.. cuba kalu kat negara luor.. sanggup perabih duit tuk masukyaminz wrote:yup... ekekeke... silap spelling error...candi...alphawolf wrote:Pasal candu tak sepower LSD...tahun 70an kannnyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
rasa nyer xpenah dgazetkan... kalo x boleh jadi tpt mnarik tok industri perlancongan... tp berselerak plak, payah gak nak jaga...
& kalu wa tak silap sekitar pertengahan 2000an ke haper.. diorg ada jumpa kawasan baru.. sebab tu kalu korang lalu jalan raya dari tanjung dawai ke sg petani ikut area merbok tu.. korang leh nampak ada kerja-kerja arkeologi kat satu ladang kelapa sawit.. mmg korang xkan miss punyer.. masih dlm kawasan kelapa sawit tapi kat tepi jalan jer
cadangan, bila da jumpa tapak2 nie, patut dpindahkan terus k muzium arkeologi boleh btambah2 koleksi,,,,
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by marc_zman Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:38 pm
yes.. you said it.. politicyaminz wrote:patut lebih proaktif lg... bila da report kat paper baru mgelabah satu malaysia... kan da jadi mainan politik...marc_zman wrote:jeng jeng jengyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
cuba tgk apa yg gomen dah buat
kalu dah namanya manusia bernama ahlul politik
hanya kerana satu insiden.. diperbesarkan bagai
serious wa tanya.. itu ahlul politik sudah lawat ka muzium Lembah Bujang
Sos Kicap
serious wa cakap.. jgn ler kita ni sesenang diperbuduhkan oleh org politik
diorg semua ada agenda politik.. semua berpaksikan politik
benda dah lama ada.. org kita sendiri tak pernah amik tau
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by yaminz Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:42 pm
sbab baru skrg org ramai mula concern apa yg berlaku, kalo dulu sikap xambil kesah... skrg smua da ambil kesah esp da ada portable media, xkira sapa mulakan; individu k, politik k, ngo k...marc_zman wrote:yes.. you said it.. politicyaminz wrote:patut lebih proaktif lg... bila da report kat paper baru mgelabah satu malaysia... kan da jadi mainan politik...marc_zman wrote:jeng jeng jengyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
cuba tgk apa yg gomen dah buat
kalu dah namanya manusia bernama ahlul politik
hanya kerana satu insiden.. diperbesarkan bagai
serious wa tanya.. itu ahlul politik sudah lawat ka muzium Lembah Bujang
Sos Kicap
serious wa cakap.. jgn ler kita ni sesenang diperbuduhkan oleh org politik
diorg semua ada agenda politik.. semua berpaksikan politik
benda dah lama ada.. org kita sendiri tak pernah amik tau
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by marc_zman Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:42 pm
Minz.. FYI.. apa yg hang tgk kat muzium tu hanya ciput jer dari keseluruhan yg ada.. ada website yg kata kawasan tingglan sejarah Lembah Bujang ni 200km persegi.. ada yg kata dah sampai 400km persegi.. wallahua'lam.. tapi mmg luasyaminz wrote:takat nei penah pegi muzium negara, muzium di melaka, muzium d sarawak da byk kali masuk... muzium2 tpt len, lum penah pegi lagi... xpenah lak abiskan duit pegi muzium kat luar negara lg... ekekekemarc_zman wrote:kalu x silap wa mmg ada kawasan yg dah digazetkan.. & sowi to say Ostadz.. mmg dah lama wujud Muzium Arkeologi Lembah Bujang.. wa berani bet yg hang tak pernah sampai lagik kan? no prob.. org Malaysia mmg camtu.. kalu muzium negara sendirik mmg tarak heran.. cuba kalu kat negara luor.. sanggup perabih duit tuk masukyaminz wrote:yup... ekekeke... silap spelling error...candi...alphawolf wrote:Pasal candu tak sepower LSD...tahun 70an kannnyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
rasa nyer xpenah dgazetkan... kalo x boleh jadi tpt mnarik tok industri perlancongan... tp berselerak plak, payah gak nak jaga...
& kalu wa tak silap sekitar pertengahan 2000an ke haper.. diorg ada jumpa kawasan baru.. sebab tu kalu korang lalu jalan raya dari tanjung dawai ke sg petani ikut area merbok tu.. korang leh nampak ada kerja-kerja arkeologi kat satu ladang kelapa sawit.. mmg korang xkan miss punyer.. masih dlm kawasan kelapa sawit tapi kat tepi jalan jer
cadangan, bila da jumpa tapak2 nie, patut dpindahkan terus k muzium arkeologi boleh btambah2 koleksi,,,,
dan kena amik kira juga yg sesetengah penemuan baru tu berada di atas tanah hak milik persendirian.. tak leh main harung jer weh
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Re: Tapak Bersejarah lembah Bujang '' Site 11 '' dimusnahkan
by yaminz Tue 03 Dec 2013, 12:48 pm
Lg bagus, boleh wat penampatan smula bg stiap pnemuan tu, bayangkan kalo atur elok2 siap wat tapak dgn teratur boleh mnarik pelancong ke situ... xperlu pegi byk tmpt yg jauh2 pulak tu...marc_zman wrote:Minz.. FYI.. apa yg hang tgk kat muzium tu hanya ciput jer dari keseluruhan yg ada.. ada website yg kata kawasan tingglan sejarah Lembah Bujang ni 200km persegi.. ada yg kata dah sampai 400km persegi.. wallahua'lam.. tapi mmg luasyaminz wrote:takat nei penah pegi muzium negara, muzium di melaka, muzium d sarawak da byk kali masuk... muzium2 tpt len, lum penah pegi lagi... xpenah lak abiskan duit pegi muzium kat luar negara lg... ekekekemarc_zman wrote:kalu x silap wa mmg ada kawasan yg dah digazetkan.. & sowi to say Ostadz.. mmg dah lama wujud Muzium Arkeologi Lembah Bujang.. wa berani bet yg hang tak pernah sampai lagik kan? no prob.. org Malaysia mmg camtu.. kalu muzium negara sendirik mmg tarak heran.. cuba kalu kat negara luor.. sanggup perabih duit tuk masukyaminz wrote:yup... ekekeke... silap spelling error...candi...alphawolf wrote:Pasal candu tak sepower LSD...tahun 70an kannnyaminz wrote:soalan pulak... nape pada tahun 1970 an, kerajaan negeri xwartakan ms candu tu dbangunkan smula... jeng2...marc_zman wrote:soalan wa pulak.. apa pasal kerajaan negeri sebelum ini tak ambil alih atau wartakan site tu sebagai kawasan sejarah dsb?yaminz wrote:boleh guna akta nie;
Akta pengambilan tanah 1960 kalo kerajaan negeri serius la...
rasa nyer xpenah dgazetkan... kalo x boleh jadi tpt mnarik tok industri perlancongan... tp berselerak plak, payah gak nak jaga...
& kalu wa tak silap sekitar pertengahan 2000an ke haper.. diorg ada jumpa kawasan baru.. sebab tu kalu korang lalu jalan raya dari tanjung dawai ke sg petani ikut area merbok tu.. korang leh nampak ada kerja-kerja arkeologi kat satu ladang kelapa sawit.. mmg korang xkan miss punyer.. masih dlm kawasan kelapa sawit tapi kat tepi jalan jer
cadangan, bila da jumpa tapak2 nie, patut dpindahkan terus k muzium arkeologi boleh btambah2 koleksi,,,,
dan kena amik kira juga yg sesetengah penemuan baru tu berada di atas tanah hak milik persendirian.. tak leh main harung jer weh
kalo xsilap la, penemuan bersejarah nie kerajaan ada hak k atas nyer wlupun brada hak milik persendirian; tp xtau la mungkin batu kot tp kalo kota emas k mungkin len cerita kot... ekekeke
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