atreyudevil wrote:

mumuchi wrote:

dapat dari FB Dzirhan..sedap ja mulut amoi ni paggey kita cowards...tak ada sapa2 nak caj dia bawah akta hasutan ke?

tak tau jaga mulut punya amoi

orang msia ni bukan cowards tp terlalu manja dan tak reti bersyukur!

time2 macam ni la patut elok ada ancaman komunis macam dlu!
baru depa tau

Bagi wa pemikiran perempuan bernama Clarissa Ai Ling Lee yang dah tentu bukan islam memang kurang ajar. Jangan jadikan Umat Islam alat untuk korang pergunakan mencapai tujuan, matlamat dan kepentingan diri.

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Ironically, Malaysia sent tonnes of its ‘religion-studies’ students to Egypt to Al-Azhar but none of them have ever imbibed or learned anything from that cradle of civilization with thousands of years of history because they spent much of their years there immersed in their own little ghetto, trying to simulate the life of the different little villages they came from in Malaysia.

Yang jenis macam tu memang ramai.. ni omputih sendiri cakap jenis
Copperhead... kalau masuk mana2 forum politik di alam maya ni memang sakit hati
asyik kutuk pasukan keselamatan je.. dia orang ingat politik kepartian dia orang boleh bawa
sejahtera tersangat sangat.. Kita yang disini perlu agresif di Aam Maya..

Encik2 dan Puan2 semua yang disini Aku Salute

tak bleh salute kat Kawan
coz belum ditauliah oleh DYMM SPB YDP Agong

ekekekekeee

taken from Lowyat,

Dzirhan vs Tony Pua

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Sorry he posted in response to me first saying no info on ships at
all when I asked why he compared a fast attack craft to the SGPV, in
which I then said that didn't I post a link to my article about the SGPV
earlier, I was not explaining on behalf of Mindef just saying that the
facts are out there and exist, sorry have to say Politicians
irrespective of party find it convenient to quote/us media reports in
line with their agenda but ignore those that don't suit them. and
you'rer wrong about MOD ignoring him, Chief of Navy said at the PC that
Pua can call and make appointment with him to discuss the SGPV. Sorry
Faidzal, think you need to understand there's no black and white,
Pakatan Rakyat are just as willing to play politics and use questionable
tactics just like BN. Right here's my tweets sequence on 7th Feb with
Pua twitter doesn't timeline properly but this as best from my feeds,
starts with earliest:

ME: Think @tonypua need to fire his researcher, says US LCS cost USD300 million each, try double that figure see this link http://bit.ly/gdpq5T

ME: Statement by @tonypua says Isreali SAAR 5 corvette USD260mil but forgot SAAR built in 1990's and 700t lighter than SGPV

Tony
Pua: Read: "budgeted" RT @DzirhanDefence: Think @tonypua need to fire
his researcher, says US LCS cost USD300 million each, try double that
fig

ME: Yr statemnt said US built LCS at budget of USD300M, it
did not, don't tell me Lam Choon Wah did yr research RT @tonypua: Read:
"budgeted"

ME: Umn, YB @tonypua, Greek Super Vita class is close over 1/4 tonnage of SGPV, that's like comparing Mini Cooper to 4WD

Tony Pua: Boss, we dun evn knw if wat we r buying. MoD nid 2 answr RT @DzirhanDefence: Umn, YB @tonypua, Greek Super Vita ... http://tmi.me/6t3wA

ME:
Sigh, take it you did not read my article I linked to RT @tonypua:
Boss, we dun evn knw if wat we r buying. MoD nid 2 answr @DzirhanDefence

ME: NZ and Irish patrol vessels all cheaper since they not mounting SSM,SAM and ASM compared to SGPV @tonypua

Tony
Pua: Boss, w/all due respt, u r x MoD. Unless MoD appts u 2 speak on
their bhlf RT @DzirhanDefence: Sigh, take it you did not read my article

Tony
Pua: Fine, then let MoD confrm d SSM, SAM, ASM etc tht they r buying RT
@DzirhanDefence: NZ and Irish patrol vessels all ... http://tmi.me/6t6pg

ME:
Well you did say you don't know details on SGPV RT @tonypua: Boss,
w/all due respt, u r x MoD. Unless MoD appts u 2 speak on their bhlf

ME: Funny enough you guys try to speak on behalf of Sultans most times [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] RT @tonypua: u r x MoD. Unless MoD appts u 2 speak on their bhlf

blast his assss......... off their heads.....

syabas dzirhan, ur name been mention dlm TV3 as referrer tuh...

My Reply Farish Noor's NST piece
by Dzirhan Mahadzir - Defence Journalist on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 at 12:19pm

After having read Farish Noor's piece entitled " How Asean can avoid arms race " (NST, May 26), my first reaction, as someone working professionally in the defence and security field, was to laugh over entire piece, which is obviously written by someone with little or next to nothing knowledge in the field but then I realized this is the key mistake that those of us who are in the defence and security field, be it government, military, media, industry or academia tend to ignore such articles written for the public and instead focus upon discussions in our professional circles, and forget that the majority of the general public, save for the military enthusiast community, are likely to believe at face value such articles by people who frankly in my opinion do not know what they are talking about. Unfortunately there has been a tendency in recent years for various people, be they academia, journalists, activists or politicians to be spreading their snake oil theories or thoughts on defence either in the mainstream/online media or publishing books on such when a cursory check of the background of such people quickly shows that they have very little knowledge, qualification, background or involvement in the defence and security field which is reflected in the material they write. Unfortunately very few of these people get called out on it by those who actually know the issues and facts which is why I've decided to reverse the trend by pointing out the problem with Farish's op-ed.

Now, first off is Farish's assertion that there are concerns that the upgraded ASEAN weapon systems capabilities could fall into the wrong hands, which clearly shows his ignorance of the issues at hand. most of the weapons technologies are platform based or platforms themselves, meaning they are mounted on and fired off an aircraft or ship or they are ships and aircraft themselves, not exactly the sort of things that terrorists can simply seize control of and use, given the fact also that to use such systems requires specialized training. So far I haven’t heard anyone in the defence and security field express any concern about the possibility of any of the recent advanced weapons purchased by ASEAN nations falling into the wrong hands. Presumably Farish must be thinking along the line that a long-range antiship missile is something that a terrorist can easily steal, carry around and make use of, not understanding that such missiles weigh several hundred kilograms and can’t be used unless fired from their launch platforms in the form of a ship-mounted launcher or launched from an aircraft. Which is enough to sum up that Farish doesn’t know what he’s talking about in this case. And one wonders why he brings up the issue of nuclear weapons not being much use for countries where illiteracy is a problem, nobody in ASEAN has indicated any desire to possess such so bring that up again smacks of someone who doesn’t know what he is talking about. And a counter-argument exists as to ASEAN nations needing to spent more on development rather than defence, it should be noted that most ASEAN nations spend annually only an average of around 2 percent or less of GDP on defence, the exception being Singapore which spends somewhere between 4-6 percent annually and the bulk of this spending lies more in operational costs and salaries for personnel than spending on military equipment and I’ll point out that a nation’s social and material development in the end means nothing if it doesn’t have an armed forces capable of defending the nation, it’s resources and interests.

It’s interesting to note that Farish’s thoughts on Indonesia’s Yakhont missiles seem to be largely based on an article written by his colleague Koh Swee Lean of Singapore’s Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS), where Farish is a visiting fellow, the article titled Indonesia’s Anti-ship Missiles: New Development in Naval Capabilities, can be read here at http://www.rsis.edu.sg/publications/Perspective/RSIS0852011.pdf and Farish seems to swallow whole-heartedly Koh’s assertion that a regional arms race is going on, which isn’t the case. Indonesia actually purchased the Yakhont in 2007 and there was hardly any reaction to it and in the case of it’s recent firing, the same has occurred. Nobody is scrambling to purchase arms to counter or match Indonesia’s Yakhont, two weeks ago I was at IMDEX Asia in Singapore, the largest maritime defence exhibition in the region and if there was an arms race going on, one would expect the show to be a hive of activity and news about naval arms purchases, requirements and deliveries which was not the case at this show. The problem with academia is that there is a tendency for some to make assertions without venturing into the field to verify such assertions which is the case here. An it should also be taken into consideration that many of the capabilities possess are too small in numbers to significantly change the strategic picture, Indonesia’s Yakhont, for example, is currently only mounted in one ship. Malaysia’s submarine launched missiles are only on the countries entire fleet of 2 submarines. While these capabilities do add a certain tactical advantage, the capabilities do not significantly change the strategic balance owing to the small numbers involved.

And of course Farish then gets into asking a silly rhetorical question as to whether ASEAN navies plan to launch missiles to stop DVD smuggling, perhaps Farish, being based at RSIS Singapore, which hosts a number of events with Singapore’s defence establishment can personally ask such a question to the Chief of the Singapore Navy or Singapore’s Minister of Defence rather than posing the question in a column. The answer to this is actually the dilemma for many navies in the region is striking a balance in having capabilities for peacetime maritime enforcement and capabilities for wartime roles. The problem lies in the fact that items such as transport ships, coastal patrol boats and observation aircraft is that such items have little use or are vulnerable in a wartime role compared to warships, naturally it’s easy to claim this is not an issue since no conflict exists, but the problem for defence planners is that no one can predict when and where would the nation be involved in a conflict in the future and the fact that it takes years to build a military capability for use in wartime, ships and weapons systems cannot be built overnight and in a short space of time, similarly such equipment or capabilities required training and integration within the naval force, something also not accomplished in a short timeframe so naturally the tendency is to err on caution and prioritize developing wartime capabilities as soon as possible, while weapons systems such as anti-ship missiles have no practical use in peacetime enforcement roles but the surface ships that carry such systems can be easily used for such roles and if Farish had actually bothered to do his research, some of the same things he states Indonesia should acquire, such as transport ships, have already been acquired, such as the Makassar class LPDs and efforts are constantly being made to improve the training and professionalism of military personnel in most ASEAN countries, that fact being something easily known by those who interact with ASEAN militaries which presumably Farish doesn’t since he seems to be ignorant of such developments.

One would also like Farish to perhaps name the fans of Rambo and war flicks that he sneers and says won’t be happy at non-purchases of weapons systems, unfortunately this is the tendency to liberal writers such as Farish to simply denigrate people with contrary viewpoints or those advocating improved military capabilities but it’s somewhat ironic considering Farish is a visiting fellow in an Singaporean institution which has strong ties with the Singaporean military and defence establishment, Singapore as we all know, improves it’s military capabilities on a regular basis so perhaps, I might wryly point out, that Farish might want take up the issue with “the fans of Rambo and other gory war flicks” there?.

farish noor main banyak sangat red alert.

/lari

heavyduty wrote:

farish noor main banyak sangat red alert.

/lari

HD
here @ mymil, we spell it as larik.. with a k
ekekekeee

aku paling terkejut dgn reaksi dzirhan berbanding artikel farish

aku personally maleh nak give time of day for such writer ekekekek!

mana tak pc.. yg tulis tu org ader connection ngan Singapore’s Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS).. tapi artikel dia.. isk isk isk

dok cakap negara sana sini, tapi negara yg sinun tu tarak sentuh pun

pcboss wrote:

aku paling terkejut dgn reaksi dzirhan berbanding artikel farish

Hahahaha .... Malaysia Boleh ..

Vacation?
nah on my eye is the 1st strike!
do tell kalo ada nampak lagi

atreyudevil wrote:

Vacation?
nah on my eye is the 1st strike!
do tell kalo ada nampak lagi

+1..baik punya..

kalu wa tarak 1st strike ni semua
orang berbudi kita berbahasa
takde budi bahasa cancel terus abis cerita

mau kasi pandangan tarak hal.. walau pahit kitorang terima
tapi bukan macam tu caranya

takpe, kalo dia faham makna ayat tu.. sendirik mau igt je lah

Yang sekor nie memang ada masalah mental.. kalau kat tempat dia dah dipanggil orang kelainan jiwa!

tak apa..kali ni aku aku kasi dak abu monitor...












aku punya count dah 3 and half dah ni ekekekekekekekeke!

abu abu

kita sebetulnya dah lebih bertoleransi pada mamat tu, kalau dia masih lagi nak bersikap yg serupa bolehlah kasik rehat sikit jiwa beberapa bulan.

ok back to topik, dzirhan nanti marah thread dia dah jadi dodol

mumuchi wrote:

tak apa..kali ni aku aku kasi dak abu monitor...












aku punya count dah 3 and half dah ni ekekekekekekekeke!

huh ye ke? takpe wa monitor satu kali strike kne la dia

ada nampak tak.. kecuali singapura, kalau negara-negara lain di ASEAN, terutama malaysia dan semenjak dua ni indonesia, ada membeli sistem persenjataan baru mesti 'penganalisis' akan guna perkataan perlumbaan senjata' serta yg seangkatan dengan nyer..

tapi apa pasal kalu singapura beli apa-apa sistem persenjataan pun, orang yg sama akan kata.. pembelian yg memenuhi konsep 'total defence' negara... apa pasal.? fikir-fikirkan lah yer

ahli mymil makan pengat
sendiri mau ingat
ekekekeee

firdausj wrote:

pcboss wrote:

aku paling terkejut dgn reaksi dzirhan berbanding artikel farish

Hahahaha .... Malaysia Boleh ..

keep your sarcastic comment elsewhere. learn to discuss in a proper manner.
and you have been warned. multiple time.

red tag granted