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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 11:03 am | |
| [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]Hoard of Foggy-Petronas FP1 road bikes found in Essex By Guy ProcterMCN has discovered a secret hoard of 60 £25,000 Foggy-Petronas FP1 road bikes in a bunker in Essex. Carl Fogarty – race team manager and figurehead of the ill-fated FP1 project – said when told the news: “You’re joking – that’s amazing!” It had been thought – and stated by the team – that the bikes were shipped to Malaysia five years ago and disposed of. But in fact virtually all the bikes initially produced to homologated the FP1 for WSB racing are still on UK soil. The collection – worth around £2m – is held in a state of suspended animation awaiting, with the bikes’ owner – Malaysian oil giant Petronas – keen to draw a veil over the whole episode. The firm burned £30m on a WSB program that was intended to kick-start a Ducati-sized bike manufacturing business in Malaysia, but in fact petered out with a 21st place championship finish in 2006. The bikes were manufactured for Petronas by engineering firm MSX International in Basildon in Essex in record time in 2002, around engines designed by Austrian firm Suter Racing. The idea was that the production process would then be replicated in Malaysia and form the start of a range of higher and lower-spec bikes running to ten thousand and more. 75 road bikes were built in Essex, followed by another 75 in Malaysia six months later, where this famous homologation shot was taken (left). Though the business that produced this first batch has since changed hands the bikes are still there, now in possession of engineering firm Arrk R&D, which also retains key MSXI staff who worked on the FP1. Tony White is one of them: “They were perfect” is all he will say about the bikes, the existence of which Petronas gagging orders prevent him from acknowledging. As chief executive of Foggy Petronas Racing, Murray Treece was the go-between for Petronas and the UK engineers who developed the road bike. He says: “Our staff developed the race bike and then were involved in transferring the design and supplier information over to the road bike team. Exactly what happened after that to the road bikes is unknown (by me at least).” It was a transition in which the FP1 lost virtually none of its clean racing looks, but a fair chunk of its power – down to 127bhp from 185bhp. Even so, at 181kg it should still have been a competitive road bike – though it was never released for road test. Eight years later only the non-radial brakes date the stark, stylish lines of the turquoise triples. Foggy said at the time: “There is no doubt that this will be the most beautiful bike on the roads. It combines cutting edge technology with real elegance and has set new standards at the top end of the road bike market”. Treece echoes: “It was a beautiful looking and sounding machine. I wish I owned one”. Treece believes Petronas underestimated the challenge in bringing a bike to market in such a short time with no infrastructure. Priceless or worthless? What does eight years do to the value of a now-outdated but ultra-exclusive superbike that failed to launch? “It’s tricky” says motorcycle valuation expert for auction house Bonhams Ben Whitworth. “The Petronas might be a bit long in the tooth compared to modern top-flight superbikes costing around £15,000, but the kudos of owning such a limited edition is certainly comparable to Ducati’s Desmosedici at £40-45,000. Very broadly speaking I reckon an example would be between £15,000-25,000. But until one is actually sold at auction and sets a precedent that remains very much a guestimate. It would be fascinating to see.” Arrk’s Tony White doesn’t agree: “It was a great project to work on that culminated in the build of 150 great bikes – we had everything done down to the owner and dealer manuals.” In fact the FP1 did eventually go on sale in 2005 – but only in one dealership, in Malaysia, called Naza Bikers Dream - where a pair were still for sale in 2009 for £31,433 each. How long this treasure trove of a tomb will remain unopened lies at Petronas’ discretion. And it’s not a volume in their history they appear keen to exhume. p/s : bike nih dipasang oleh MODENAS pada tahun 2003 utk jualan tapi senyap jerk, tiba2 dengar khabar Modenas nak keluarkan Superbike pertama kat m'sia based on projek FP1 nih... hu3, x sabar nk tgk... | |
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jofizo Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 12:48 pm | |
| dulu modenas ada masuk gp dgn model KR3 hasil sentuhan Kenny Roberts tapi sayang projek nih tak dikomersilkan | |
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pcboss Major
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 12:54 pm | |
| - jofizo wrote:
- dulu modenas ada masuk gp dgn model KR3 hasil sentuhan Kenny Roberts tapi sayang projek nih tak dikomersilkan
engine dia 3 stroke kalau tak salah. ada market ke 3 stroke punya engine ni? | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 1:43 pm | |
| angin bertiup kencang gak kat board2 motorsikal yang modenas nak kuarkan superbike, rasanya modenas dh cukup matang utk keluarkan motor sendiri... yang peliknya nape dorang tarik diri dari cup prix bulan lepas? tiba2 jerk... | |
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atreyudevil ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 4:27 pm | |
| FP1 ni dlu sebenarnya jadik mangsa (ikut member aku la)
bila projek ni jalan tup2 beberapa tahun lepas tu Petronas keluar polisi tarik diri dari semua sponsorhip sukan bermotor sehingga tahun ni apabila petronas mula taja balik Yamaha tuk Motor GP
Bukan setakat FP1 punya projek je, Sprinta GP (shahrul yuzi punya team), dan lain2 lagi! | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 4:44 pm | |
| - atreyudevil wrote:
- FP1 ni dlu sebenarnya jadik mangsa (ikut member aku la)
bila projek ni jalan tup2 beberapa tahun lepas tu Petronas keluar polisi tarik diri dari semua sponsorhip sukan bermotor sehingga tahun ni apabila petronas mula taja balik Yamaha tuk Motor GP
Bukan setakat FP1 punya projek je, Sprinta GP (shahrul yuzi punya team), dan lain2 lagi! masa dgn FP1 petronas tarik diri coz prestasi pasukan merudum after spec n undang2 baru bagi SBK/MotoGP... tapi xtauler nih betui ke x, kalau ikut dlm wiki n statement dlm Forgey nyer web... apapun bagi aku Modenas kena ambik nih sbg peluang coz dorang pernah pasang n test bike nih, apa lagi, kuarkan superbike budget rendah utk warga m'sia, he3 | |
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mumuchi GLOBAL MODERATOR
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 4:54 pm | |
| er ini bukan sudah jadi superbike mesia ka .. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] | |
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atreyudevil ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 4:58 pm | |
| - venez wrote:
- atreyudevil wrote:
- FP1 ni dlu sebenarnya jadik mangsa (ikut member aku la)
bila projek ni jalan tup2 beberapa tahun lepas tu Petronas keluar polisi tarik diri dari semua sponsorhip sukan bermotor sehingga tahun ni apabila petronas mula taja balik Yamaha tuk Motor GP
Bukan setakat FP1 punya projek je, Sprinta GP (shahrul yuzi punya team), dan lain2 lagi! masa dgn FP1 petronas tarik diri coz prestasi pasukan merudum after spec n undang2 baru bagi SBK/MotoGP... tapi xtauler nih betui ke x, kalau ikut dlm wiki n statement dlm Forgey nyer web... apapun bagi aku Modenas kena ambik nih sbg peluang coz dorang pernah pasang n test bike nih, apa lagi, kuarkan superbike budget rendah utk warga m'sia, he3 igt lagi kat iklan dia dlu 80 unit je kan depa jual! | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 7:32 pm | |
| - atreyudevil wrote:
- venez wrote:
- atreyudevil wrote:
- FP1 ni dlu sebenarnya jadik mangsa (ikut member aku la)
bila projek ni jalan tup2 beberapa tahun lepas tu Petronas keluar polisi tarik diri dari semua sponsorhip sukan bermotor sehingga tahun ni apabila petronas mula taja balik Yamaha tuk Motor GP
Bukan setakat FP1 punya projek je, Sprinta GP (shahrul yuzi punya team), dan lain2 lagi! masa dgn FP1 petronas tarik diri coz prestasi pasukan merudum after spec n undang2 baru bagi SBK/MotoGP... tapi xtauler nih betui ke x, kalau ikut dlm wiki n statement dlm Forgey nyer web... apapun bagi aku Modenas kena ambik nih sbg peluang coz dorang pernah pasang n test bike nih, apa lagi, kuarkan superbike budget rendah utk warga m'sia, he3 igt lagi kat iklan dia dlu 80 unit je kan depa jual! rasanya x byk jual coz dlm stor tuh masih byk lagi... | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 10:03 pm | |
| - mumuchi wrote:
- er ini bukan sudah jadi superbike mesia ka ..
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] nih still hyusong, rebadge jerk... huk3
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mumuchi GLOBAL MODERATOR
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 11:00 pm | |
| tu la fasal..skrg rebadge dan jadi nasional | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Mon 25 Oct 2010, 11:42 pm | |
| - mumuchi wrote:
- tu la fasal..skrg rebadge dan jadi nasional
he3, NAZA x kiraler... | |
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jofizo Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 1:22 pm | |
| - pcboss wrote:
- jofizo wrote:
- dulu modenas ada masuk gp dgn model KR3 hasil sentuhan Kenny Roberts tapi sayang projek nih tak dikomersilkan
engine dia 3 stroke kalau tak salah. ada market ke 3 stroke punya engine ni? 3 stroke memnag tak dak market tapi engineer dia boleh modify jadik 2 or 4 stroke........ cuma ubah enjin sikit je...... | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 1:32 pm | |
| serba sedikit spek Petronas FP1 : Make Model Foggy Petronas FP1 Year 2004 Engine Four stroke, parallel three cylinder. DOHC, 4 valve per cylinder, Liquid cooled Capacity 899.5 Bore x Stroke 88 x 49.3 mm Compression Ratio 14:1 Induction Electronic injection Marelli Ignition / Starting - / electric Max Power 95 kW 129 hp @ 10000 rpm Max Torque 92 Nm @ 9750 rpm Transmission / Drive 6 Speed / chain Front Suspension Öhlins upside-down fork - 43mm Low Inverted Design: Multi Adjustable: compression, rebound, spring. 120-125mm adjustable travel. Rear Suspension Monoshock Low linkage, Aero Twin Spar Xylan coated Swingarm: Adjustable Ride Height: Öhlins Shock - adjustable compression and rebound damping, quick action spring preload adjuster, 120mm wheel travel Front Brakes 2x 320mm discs Rear Brakes Single 220mm disc Front Tyre 120/70ZR17 Rear Tyre 190/50ZR17 Dry-Weight 185 kg Fuel Capacity 23.5 Litres p/s : ikut spek enjin dia 4 stroke, tapi 3 inline cylinder...[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]cocoon storage at essex... | |
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atreyudevil ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 2:51 pm | |
| boleh beli pukal tak? kita buat motor rasmi MyMil! | |
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marc_zman MODERATOR
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 2:56 pm | |
| - Quote :
- boleh beli pukal tak?
kita buat motor rasmi MyMil! objection Yang Ariff.!!!Kawan tak ader lesen motorsikal.. ini tidak adilll.!!!heheheheheeee.. | |
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atreyudevil ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 3:05 pm | |
| huihh kawa ada lesen B full tp pakai honda wave je hehehehe
tu yang gatai tu! | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 3:27 pm | |
| he3, kawe setuju kita beli buat motor rasmi mymil, tapi sapa nak funding? | |
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jofizo Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 3:34 pm | |
| - marc_zman wrote:
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- boleh beli pukal tak?
kita buat motor rasmi MyMil! objection Yang Ariff.!!! Kawan tak ader lesen motorsikal.. ini tidak adilll.!!! heheheheheeee.. ala, pakai jer, jarang trafik ka jpj ka yg tahan moto besar nih, biasa kapcai jer.......... | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 3:40 pm | |
| - jofizo wrote:
- marc_zman wrote:
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- boleh beli pukal tak?
kita buat motor rasmi MyMil! objection Yang Ariff.!!! Kawan tak ader lesen motorsikal.. ini tidak adilll.!!! heheheheheeee.. ala, pakai jer, jarang trafik ka jpj ka yg tahan moto besar nih, biasa kapcai jer.......... aku pernah pki motor bertahun-tahun tanpa lesen motor n bila pki bike besar x pernah ada lesen B full, skrg jerk ada, so far x pernah kena tahan n check lesen, tahan n sembang pasal motor adaler... | |
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atreyudevil ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 3:52 pm | |
| ni fp1 ni byk simpan, takle nak beli ke! dlu igt harga dia 79999 kan!
skrg mesti lagi murah, tp sparepart camno eh? | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 3:55 pm | |
| - atreyudevil wrote:
- ni fp1 ni byk simpan, takle nak beli ke!
dlu igt harga dia 79999 kan!
skrg mesti lagi murah, tp sparepart camno eh? rege masa kuar 150k (Naza price tag)... skrg kalau jual 60-80k sure ramai angkat... | |
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jofizo Lieutenant
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 4:29 pm | |
| tapi x nah nampak lagi la moto nih on the road....... nk cari 2nd kat kedai moto lagi la | |
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atreyudevil ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 4:36 pm | |
| - venez wrote:
- atreyudevil wrote:
- ni fp1 ni byk simpan, takle nak beli ke!
dlu igt harga dia 79999 kan!
skrg mesti lagi murah, tp sparepart camno eh? rege masa kuar 150k (Naza price tag)... skrg kalau jual 60-80k sure ramai angkat... eh rasanya iklan kat tv dlu 79999! 80 unit! naza jual 150k ke? | |
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venez ADMIN
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| Subject: Re: Kemana Menghilang FP1? Tue 26 Oct 2010, 4:48 pm | |
| - atreyudevil wrote:
- venez wrote:
- atreyudevil wrote:
- ni fp1 ni byk simpan, takle nak beli ke!
dlu igt harga dia 79999 kan!
skrg mesti lagi murah, tp sparepart camno eh? rege masa kuar 150k (Naza price tag)... skrg kalau jual 60-80k sure ramai angkat... eh rasanya iklan kat tv dlu 79999! 80 unit! naza jual 150k ke? yup, ada 2 bijik lagi motor nih kat Naza PJ sampai skrg... mula jual dulu mmg 150k... dlm website petronas xtauler plak bape... kalau 79k mmg berbaloi... | |
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