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mumuchi wrote:
Aku buat research sikit fasal model kubelwagen tamiya yang aku beli dari DG. Pelik pulak aku bila tengok model brand great wall hobby mahal2 dalam ratusan ringgit. Any particular reason? aku ingatkan model2 dari China reputasi kureng sikit.

A/way research aku fasal kubelwagen ni rupanya manyak versi DAk atau eastern front. Yg general model macam tamiya ni aku jumpa dari brand Bego/tasca ni aja dan reputasi dia lak superb. Any komen dan pernah kelihatan tak kat malaysia ni.

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Kalo brand TASCA nei susah nak nampak kat msia, tamiya blambak la jugak...
Dr segi quality both good and dari segi resemble this kits, tamiya lg senang.

Dr segi accuratecy, TASCA more accurate la...

Pasal product China nei, kualiti diorg da improved sgt2 esp pnambahan photo-etched dlm kits diorg... Lgpun accuretecy dlm model2 pun da improved, siap anta research team kat oversea (Dragon wat)... Fair to say, Product china nei lebih baik dr Tamiya o Western, tp slack nyer instruction jea, quite confusing... ekekeke
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Betul, produk China (mainland China - sebab Dragon HK SAR..hehe) dah makin baik. Memang ada kureng sini-sana (siapa yang tak?) tapi cun...Aku terliur tengok Merk IV Hobby Boss....terliur tengok anti-slip coating dia.....
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so consider dah safe la beli barang2 china ni macam Hobby Boss dan Hobby fan ya..ok boleh consider ni..
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mumuchi wrote:
so consider dah safe la beli barang2 china ni macam Hobby Boss dan Hobby fan ya..ok boleh consider ni..

yup... hehehe... dragon n trumpeter pun ok bro
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Lupa la...

Smalam singgah sebentar di Hobby HQ... Ada byk barang baru sampai...

Tp paling mnarik: -

1/72 Carribou tp tok Vietnam war, leh convert jd TUDM punyer
p/s sifu alpha maybe interested with this kit...

1/72 Revell FW2000 Condor (Anti-Shipping (RM120+-) dan Bomber version (RM159))
hmmm...
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wa pun ingat balik karang singgah jap..saja2 tgk2 fasal bini bawak keter sendiri..
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mumuchi wrote:
wa pun ingat balik karang singgah jap..saja2 tgk2 fasal bini bawak keter sendiri..

sila bro... mostly kits2 aircraft byk yg baru masuk...
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kits meriam still MIA ka?
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mumuchi wrote:
kits meriam still MIA ka?

still yg lama bro... no updated...
kalo PAK ada la gak...
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khas utk dewafrost dan jazim..

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yaminz wrote:
mumuchi wrote:
Aku buat research sikit fasal model kubelwagen tamiya yang aku beli dari DG. Pelik pulak aku bila tengok model brand great wall hobby mahal2 dalam ratusan ringgit. Any particular reason? aku ingatkan model2 dari China reputasi kureng sikit.

A/way research aku fasal kubelwagen ni rupanya manyak versi DAk atau eastern front. Yg general model macam tamiya ni aku jumpa dari brand Bego/tasca ni aja dan reputasi dia lak superb. Any komen dan pernah kelihatan tak kat malaysia ni.

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Bego 35003

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Tamiya 35213

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Kalo brand TASCA nei susah nak nampak kat msia, tamiya blambak la jugak...
Dr segi quality both good and dari segi resemble this kits, tamiya lg senang.

Dr segi accuratecy, TASCA more accurate la...


pergh lepas research baru tau TASCA/Platz/Hasegawa dan juga Dragon semuanya gunakan Bego punya Kubelwagen
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Kalo rega panzerwarfer leh cecah dlm rm200+. maybe ztz-99 pun leh cecah rega sama... huhuhu
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aku sebenarnya tak faham macamana depa caj model ni..aku tengok ada yg complicated murah aja, simple tapi popular mahal la pulak..
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mumuchi wrote:
aku sebenarnya tak faham macamana depa caj model ni..aku tengok ada yg complicated murah aja, simple tapi popular mahal la pulak..

Mostly sbab brand bro, cam Tamiya & Hasegawa.
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Alang2 wa buat research kits kereta kebal Panther, meh kita tengok apa yang ada:

The PzKpfw V (Panzer V) Panther, or SdKfz. 171, medium tanks were designed to replace the Panzer III and Panzer IV tanks. The main weapon was to be the 7.5-centimeter Rheinmetall-Borsig KwK 42 L/70 gun with 79 rounds of ammunition; the gun's long barrel and the large propellant charge used made the Panther guns some of the most lethal tank guns among contemporaries. In fact, Panther guns had better penetration capabilities against enemy armor than those of Tiger I heavy tanks in most circumstances. Although Panzer V Panther medium tanks were designed as a replacement to Panzer III and Panzer IV tanks, ultimately they served on the front lines together. More Info

Seperti lazim kit2 dibahagi kepada versi2 Early, Mid dan Late tetapi terbahagi kepada 3 versi seperti di bawah dan juga ada yang membuat kit2 model prototype atau one off model. Pelik bagi saya ialah designasinya bermula dengan Ausf. D, diikuti Ausf. A dan diakhiri dengan Ausf. G

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Syarikat2 yang membuat kit2 Panther adalah :

Atelier Infinite

CMK

Cyber Hobby

Dragon

GSI Creos

ICM

Italeri

Tamiya

Revell* (Bakal keluar)
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Pasal Panther nie, xtau nape ia bmula dgn D pastu balik kpd A, pastu version F and lastly G...

Panther gak mmiliki pandangan malam, dan ianya mula boperasi kat eastern front.
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Sebenarnya mmg Panther, start dengan 'A' tapi 'A' asal ni pre-production model dan hanya sampai Ausf D baru in full production. Ausf A asal kemudiannya diberi designation D1 dan ada antara D1 ni dipasang turet Panzer IV untuk jadi command vehicle unit tank destroyer di Eastern Front.

Sepatutnya lepas D, E kan? tapi entah macamana, pusing balik A, yang jadi variant terbanyak. Ausf F kekal sebagai prototype sahaja.....

Trivia: Jepun ada membeli 2 Panther tapi sebab keadaan peperangan tidak mengizinkan, ianya kekal di jerman dan dipinjamkan kepada angkatan tentera Jerman...
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Sebenarnya mmg Panther, start dengan 'A' tapi 'A' asal ni pre-production model dan hanya sampai Ausf D baru in full production. Ausf A asal kemudiannya diberi designation D1 dan ada antara D1 ni dipasang turet Panzer IV untuk jadi command vehicle unit tank destroyer di Eastern Front.

Sepatutnya lepas D, E kan? tapi entah macamana, pusing balik A, yang jadi variant terbanyak. Ausf F kekal sebagai prototype sahaja.....

Trivia: Jepun ada membeli 2 Panther tapi sebab keadaan peperangan tidak mengizinkan, ianya kekal di jerman dan dipinjamkan kepada angkatan tentera Jerman...

itu dia ulasan mantap dr alpha... thanks bro... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Kita mula dengan kit2 spesifik dengan pengeluar Tamiya dengan komen2 dari HLJ, yang mengangkat kit dari Tamiya sebagai terbaik walaupun berbanding dengan Dragon. Tetapi nampaknya hanya untuk versi G sementar Dragon masih dihadapan untuk versi A.

Walaubagaimanapun kita bermula dengan Kit awal Tamiya dahulu


Kit # 35065 German Panther Ausf.A
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Tamiya's very old Panther tank with 2 (one is half-bodied) figures. Good for beginners. Era 70'an.

Kit # 35170 German Panther Ausf.G Early Version keluaran 1990an

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The first kit in Tamiya's new Panther series. Without a doubt the best Panther kit there is (and one of the best AFV kits ever produced by anybody). Belt-type cementable track, one commander figure.

Kit # 35174 German Panther Ausf.G w/steel-rimmed wheels keluaran 1990an
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Variation of the Panther kit depicting the steel-wheel version sometimes seen on around the Western front in Europe. Includes special IR night-vision device on the commander's cupola. With a commander figure.

Kit # 35176 German Panther Ausf.G Late Version

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Variation of the superb Tamiya Panther. Kit contains main gun shield with tin armor block, heater unit on left engine cooling air outlet, and flame-hiding exhaust pipes that characterized the Ausf.G late version. Two good new figures are also included.

Kit # 35261 Panther Type G Early w/Eduard Photo-Etched Zimmeri keluarn 2003
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Tamiya's excellent early Panther kit reissued together with photo-etched parts by Eduard for duplicating the normally-difficult appearance of Zimmerit coating. Includes complete English instructions for working with the photo-etched parts. Rare Item dalam pasaran fasal special edition.


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Sebenarnya mmg Panther, start dengan 'A' tapi 'A' asal ni pre-production model dan hanya sampai Ausf D baru in full production. Ausf A asal kemudiannya diberi designation D1 dan ada antara D1 ni dipasang turet Panzer IV untuk jadi command vehicle unit tank destroyer di Eastern Front.

Sepatutnya lepas D, E kan? tapi entah macamana, pusing balik A, yang jadi variant terbanyak. Ausf F kekal sebagai prototype sahaja.....

Trivia: Jepun ada membeli 2 Panther tapi sebab keadaan peperangan tidak mengizinkan, ianya kekal di jerman dan dipinjamkan kepada angkatan tentera Jerman...

tak silap Tiger 1 pun ada sebijik dengan nasib yang sama. Btw pha pernah buat ke? Mana best?
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For it time maybe the best, Kit # 35065 German Panther Ausf. Tp kit nie ada lubang kat bawah... ssuai kalo nak wat RC...
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mumuchi wrote:
alphawolf wrote:
Sebenarnya mmg Panther, start dengan 'A' tapi 'A' asal ni pre-production model dan hanya sampai Ausf D baru in full production. Ausf A asal kemudiannya diberi designation D1 dan ada antara D1 ni dipasang turet Panzer IV untuk jadi command vehicle unit tank destroyer di Eastern Front.

Sepatutnya lepas D, E kan? tapi entah macamana, pusing balik A, yang jadi variant terbanyak. Ausf F kekal sebagai prototype sahaja.....

Trivia: Jepun ada membeli 2 Panther tapi sebab keadaan peperangan tidak mengizinkan, ianya kekal di jerman dan dipinjamkan kepada angkatan tentera Jerman...

tak silap Tiger 1 pun ada sebijik dengan nasib yang sama. Btw pha pernah buat ke? Mana best?

Apa dia? Panther? Setakat ni pernah buat dua...dua2 Ausf G - satu Tamiya (steel wheel) satu Dragon (zimmerit)
Plus point Tamiya
- ease of built
- kalau beli steel wheel, dapat sprue rubber wheel asal plus NV gear

negatives
- boleh kata takde...well maybe takde PE untuk engine grille

Dargon
-zimmerit built in
- more details

negatives
- tadak (at least nothing comes to mind)
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Dragon pulak dikatakan pengeluar Kit Panther yang paling banyak variasi. Disusun mengikut koda item untuk kemudahan.

Kit # 6027 Panther II
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A very nice kit of a tank which was never built, at least in the form seen on the box art (the hull was completed and is on display at Fort Knox, USA, but they never finished an actual vehicle). Given that, it's pretty hard to comment on the kit's accuracy, but it looks good in the box! Individual-link plastic tracks (require assembly).

Kit # 6160 Panther Ausf.A Early Type (Italy 1943/44)
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The first thing that may strike you about this fine kit from Dragon is not the model itself, but the instructions! Instead of the usual line drawings to guide you through assembly, you get a full-color, photographed guide showing the actual parts being assembled! A welcome change from their previously hard-to-follow offerings. Detail in the box looks great. Tracks are individually-molded injection-plastic that require assembly. No figures included.

Kit # 6164 Panther Ausf.D "Kursk 1943" (Sd.Kfz.171)

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This fine Dragon offering includes all the parts and decals you need to replicate the first Panther tanks to ever see service or combat -- a vehicle from the 52nd Battalion, 39th Panzer Regiment during the Kursk Offensive in July of 1943 (see box art). Modifications from the earlier Ausf. A release include bow details, cupola, exhaust pipes and more. Includes injection plastic, individual-link type tracks (non-working).

Kit # 6168 Panther Ausf.A Late Model
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For some reason, Tamiya has never decided to retool their ancient Panther A (TAM35065, from the 1960s) during the period, and Dragon capitalized releasing first the early model (see link below), and now this late model. This is the type with the ball mount MG on the front of the vehicle -- the Panther image that most people probably think of when this tank comes to mind. Every bit as good as the first release.

Kit # 6244 Panther Ausf.A w/Alm. Barrel & Photo-etched

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Dragon's special release for the 60th Anniversary of the Normandy Campaign! The original kit (DRA6168) was designed by the same team of Japanese engineers that has worked on their many German and Russian tanks, so the well-earned reputation of the best Panther model ever from modelers adds value to this kit! Dragon has added a lathed aluminum barrel and brass photo-etched set for engine grills, as well as soft metal wire for the towing cable.

Kit # 6267 Sd.Kfz.171 Panther G Early Production Pz.Rgt.26

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Here's a new-generation kit from Dragon, one of their "Smart Kit" series of high-detail, low-hassle kits featuring clever engineering and employing the latest in slide-mold technology to achieve the highest level of detail with the lowest number of parts. This release specifically models a Panther G early production version that served with the 26th Panzer Regiment on the Italian front. These Panthers were unique in that they sported add-on armor on the roofs of their turrets to protect them from aerial attack, recreated in this kit by fine photo-etched and turned brass parts.

Kit # 6268 Sd.Kfz.171 Panther Ausf G Late Model

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This brand new Sd.Kfz.171 Panther G Late Production kit, the first of the so-called “Smart Kits” from Dragon with state of the art moulding and detail but only the bare minimum of metal parts using extensive slide moulds to impart excellent details on the plastic parts. This kit as with the recently released Panther Ausf.D Premium (kit #6299) has a mix of early and later Ausf.G features so care is needed when choosing the final make up of the details. The kit best represents the late Ausf.G manufactured by M.A.N in April 1945.

Variasi kit ini juga dikeluarkan dengan set PE Cyber Hobby dan dinombork Kit # 6268C untuk combo.

Kit # 6299 Panther D Premium Edition
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Dragon's Premium Edition Panther D kit is packed full of all the bells and whistles you could want in a 1/35 armor kit. With over 730 parts, including a comprehensive fret of photo-etch, metal gun barrel, metal chains, and Dragon's patented Magic Track complete with slide-molded hollow guide horn detail, everything you need to build a super-detailed model comes right in the box. Includes markings for 7 vehicles.

Kit # 6358 Panther A Late Premium Edition
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Dragon gives it's already excellent Panther A Late kit the "Premium Edition" treatment, adding photo-etched parts, newly-tooled plastic parts, and "Magic Track" indy links slide-molded with open guide horn detail. Also includes metal side armor skirts and tools with or without clasps molded on, as well as a choice of one-piece plastic or metal main cannon barrels (muzzle brake is plastic). Decal options for six vehicles.

Kit # 6370 Panther G w/Steel Road Wheel

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With its potent combination of armor, armament, and mobility, the German Panther medium tank is considered one of the best armored fighting vehicles of WWII. Later in the war, some Ausf. G Panthers were fitted with steel road wheels instead of the usual rubber-rimmed types. Options abound in this kit, such as a choice of rear engine decks, two types of tow shackles, two types of radiator fans, and two options for the deck-mounted heater unit. Tracks are provided as Magic Track links, which are all cleaned up and ready for assembly. Although this is the steel-wheeled version of the Panther, the kit contains the standard rubber-rimmed wheels as well. Decals by Cartograf to model four different vehicles.

Kit # 6384 Sd.Kfz.171 Panther G w/Zimmerit
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Dragon's Panther G kit is packed full of all the bells and whistles you could want in a 1/35-scale armor kit, with the addition this time of a very nice rendition of the zimmerit anti-mine coating molded right in! With hundreds and hundreds of parts, including a comprehensive fret of photo-etch, metal gun barrel, metal chains, resin storage bins with damage, and Dragon's patented Dragon Styrene flexible belt-style tracks (newly tooled for the Panther G) complete with slide-molded hollow guide horn detail, everything you need to build a super-detailed model comes right in the box. Includes markings by Cartograf for four vehicles.

Kit # 6403 Sd.Kfz.171 Panther F Steel Wheel
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The German Panther tank is often mentioned as one of the best AFVs of WWII, combining excellent mobility, protection, and firepower all in one mechanically reliable package (the later models, anyway!). The Panther F with its "schmalturm" and steel road wheels was one planned improvement of the type, but it never got past the prototype stage before the end of the war. Includes optional metal or plastic one-piece main gun barrels, two frets of photo-etched metal detail parts, and optional parts for many, many other features. Decals by Cartograf are included for four speculative vehicles.

Kit # 6428 Panther D w/Zimmerit Coating
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Dragon's Panther D kit is packed full of all the bells and whistles you could want in a 1/35-scale armor kit, with the addition this time of a very nice rendition of the zimmerit anti-mine coating molded right in! With over 730 parts, including a comprehensive fret of photo-etch, metal gun barrel, metal chains, and Dragon's patented Dragon Styrene flexible belt-style tracks complete with slide-molded hollow guide horn detail, everything you need to build a super-detailed model comes right in the box. Includes markings for two vehicles.

Kit # 6561 Ersatz M10
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Dragon's long-announced and much-awaited German "Ersatz" M10 Panther is finally here! The kit includes the base Panther kit plus all the newly-tooled parts needed to disguise it as an Allied M10 tank destroyer. Tracks are Dragon's non-workable indy-link "Magic Track" assemblies, and of course there's much PE to go around! Decals are included for two versions.


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Selain 14 + 1 kit Panther yang dikeluarkan di bawah jenama Dragon sendiri, Dragon jugak mengeluarkan variasi kit di bawah jenama premiumnya Cyver Hobby dan Shanghai Dragon yang lebih ekonomik.

Versi2 Cyber Hobby.

Kit # 6340 Berge-Panther mit Aufgesetztem (Panzer IV Turret)
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Dragon/Cyber-Hobby's interesting kit depicts a Panther chassis with a Panzer IV turret mounted on it, to represent a Berge-Panther mit Aufgesetztem. Includes "Dragon Styrene" flexible belt-style tracks, photo-etched metal detail parts, metal tow cables, and decals for one version. Command Vehicle seperti yang dikatakan Alpha.

Kit # 6346 Sd.Kfz.171 Panther D w/"Stadtgas" Fuel Tanks
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With the shortages of raw materials in the final years of WWII, a number of Panther Ausf.Ds were converted to run on wood gas or liquid natural gas (propane), these were used for driver training only with no evidence available they ever saw active service. This kit under the Cyber Hobby label represents the propane version and is basically the same kit as the recently released Dragon Panther Ausf.D Premium Edition (kit #6299) with the addition of a few new plastic parts for the fuel tanks and additional metal parts, the kit Premium Edition being in turn based on the previous Dragon Panther Ausf.D (kit #6164).

Kit # 6419 Pz. Beob. Wg.V Ausf.D
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Dragon/Cyber-Hobby's excellent Panther Ausf. D kit with new parts to build it as Pz.beob.Wg.V Ausf.D, the armored observation vehicle variant – "Panzerbeobactungswagen" in German. Built mostly from redundant Ausf. D Panthers, the observation variant was designed as an armored forward artillery observer and fire coordination vehicle. But apparently only one prototype was built and fielded.

Kit # 6524 Black Knight Story Sd.Kfz.171 Panther A Late
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Cyberhobby has come out with a series based on Japanese Manga "The Story of the Black Knight". and this is Dragon/Cyber-hobby's excellent Panther A Late kit, with photo-etched parts, highly-detailed plastic parts, and one-piece flexible slide-molded tracks with open guide horn detail. Also includes metal side armor skirts and tools with or without clasps molded on, as well as a choice of one-piece plastic or metal main cannon barrels (muzzle brake is plastic). Includes one set of markings for the "Black Knight," Eastern Front, 1944. Includes two figures (not 6!). The book "The Story of the Black Knight" is not included.

Kit # 6551 Befehls Panther Ausf.G
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Dragon/Cyber-Hobby's excellent Panther Ausf. G kit with new parts to build it as a Befehls Panther Ausf.G, with the tall star antenna. Includes "Magic Track" non-workable indy-link tracks, photo-etched metal detail parts, metal tow cables, chains, and other metal parts, and decals for one version. (yang ni eden menyesal tak sapu last unit kat Sprue Brothers)

Kit # 6626 Flak Panther Ausf.D s.Pz.Jg.Abt.653
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As anyone who owns a copy of Combat History of Schwere Panzerjäger Abteilung 653, by Karlheinz Münch should know, this particular unit had a penchant for creating unique field conversions on some of their vehicles. One such was a Panther (actually a Bergepanther) Ausf.D chassis that was fitted with a 2cm Flakvierling 38 in the opening reserved for the turret. There is photographic and anecdotal evidence regarding this particular (and unusual) conversion, so it is a perfect fit for Cyberhobbys White Box series of limited production kits.

Kit # 6659 Black Knight Story Sd.Kfz.171 Panther G Late Production
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Second Panther in the series. but based on the Dragon/Cyber-hobby's excellent Panther G Late kit, with photo-etched parts, highly-detailed plastic parts, and one-piece flexible slide-molded tracks with open guide horn detail. Also includes a one-piece plastic main cannon barrel with slide-molded muzzle brake. Includes one set of markings for the "Black Knight," Eastern Front, 1944. Includes two figures (not 6!).

Kit # 9103 Panzerkampfwagen Panther II Super Value Pack

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Here's a "Super Value Pack" Cyber-Hobby edition of Dragon's fine Panther II kit. Tracks are individual link assemblies. Includes photo-etched metal detail parts and decals for a fictional "Berlin 1945" version. The value-added bonus items include a set of pioneer tools and a set of German Volkssturm figures.

Kit # 9121 Flakpanzer V Coelian & Panzer Riders Lorraine 1944
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Air defense has been a key factor for ground troops in every army, since the start of the deployment of combat aircraft in WWI. The German Army's tank troops were strongly threatened by Allied ground attack aircraft during WWII, and they needed AA guns with sufficient mobility to keep up with and guard the tank toops. The Coelian, with its twin 3.7cm guns, was developed from the Panther tank. The Coelian never went beyond the mock-up stage, but its impressive appearance has attracted many modelers over the years. Here's Dragon/Cyber-Hobby's fine kit of the Coelian, with the addition of a set of four "Panzer Rider" figures as an added bonus feature. Tracks are supplied as Dragon's indy-link "Magic Tracks" tracks.

manakala versi2 Shanghai Dragon dalam Imperial Series ialah

Kit # 9008 Pz V Panther Ausf.F

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The Panther F was intended to be the final production model of the Panther series. The most distinctive point of design of the Panther F is its turret, named "Schmalturm" (which means, roughly, "slimmed turret"). It aimed to reduce the front projection area compared to its predecessors. The reduction in hit probability would then increase the chances of the tank's survival. Dragon has reproduced this German Panzer Force's possible next-generation tank very nicely; the details are fine. But since there has been about 10 years of progress in Dragon's molding technology since the first release of this kit, you might be better off replacing some detail parts like the jack and tools with contemporary, finer ones from your junk parts box. Tracks are lnjection plastic separate track link type. A photo-etched set for the engine grills are included. No figure included.

Kit # 9022 Flakpanzer V Coelian

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The Coelian is based on the Gunze Sangyo Panther G with some new dragon parts (turrets) which is not bad for a 1989 kit. Since the original existed only as a mock up, it's hard to criticize it for accuracy. Individual link tracks, and no PE grills in the box.

Kit # 9045 Pz.Kpfw. V Ausf. G NIGHT FIGHTING PANTHER

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Shanghai-Dragon is an offshoot of Dragon (DML) proper. Typically they reissue Dragon kits at a discount price. The Panther G was unusual as it was released originally by Shanghai-Dragon. At least that is what Dragon claims. Although this is marketed as "All New Tooling" there is a lot of Gunze in this box. The engine hatch cover molded onto the hull is reminiscent of the old "High-Tech" kit, and the roadwheels are a dead give away. Out of the box this will build a very handsome Panther G and there is no need to supplement any of it unless by choice. The 7.5cm barrel cleans up perfectly, with care, and the included link to link caterpillars are very nice with the obvious omission of the hollow guide horns

Kit # 9046 PzBefWg Panther Ausf. G

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This is the same as #9045 but set up as a command tank and without the IR equipment mounted, and with the change of the conventional wheels to a full run of steels plus the command aerials and commander's "broomstick" cupola scope.

Jadi apabila dijumlahkan semua panthers yang dikeluarkan dalam keluarga Dragon, terdapat 28 jenis kit Panther setakat ini.


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Very nice bro...
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alphawolf wrote:
mumuchi wrote:
alphawolf wrote:
Sebenarnya mmg Panther, start dengan 'A' tapi 'A' asal ni pre-production model dan hanya sampai Ausf D baru in full production. Ausf A asal kemudiannya diberi designation D1 dan ada antara D1 ni dipasang turet Panzer IV untuk jadi command vehicle unit tank destroyer di Eastern Front.

Sepatutnya lepas D, E kan? tapi entah macamana, pusing balik A, yang jadi variant terbanyak. Ausf F kekal sebagai prototype sahaja.....

Trivia: Jepun ada membeli 2 Panther tapi sebab keadaan peperangan tidak mengizinkan, ianya kekal di jerman dan dipinjamkan kepada angkatan tentera Jerman...

tak silap Tiger 1 pun ada sebijik dengan nasib yang sama. Btw pha pernah buat ke? Mana best?

Apa dia? Panther? Setakat ni pernah buat dua...dua2 Ausf G - satu Tamiya (steel wheel) satu Dragon (zimmerit)
Plus point Tamiya
- ease of built
- kalau beli steel wheel, dapat sprue rubber wheel asal plus NV gear

negatives
- boleh kata takde...well maybe takde PE untuk engine grille

Dargon
-zimmerit built in
- more details

negatives
- tadak (at least nothing comes to mind)
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Alpha..lepas aku research Dragon punya keluaran, aku rasa nak stick ngan tamiya aja fasal dragon melampau2 version.

Yaminz..wa dah edit Dragon, CyberHobby dan Shanghai Dragon. Ada 28 versi tu cyclops


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