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Aritu ada nampak Gen2 test pakai lambang Mitsu, tp kat Taiwan ke Jepun.

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confirm yerk WAJA Lancer nih utk pasaran tempatan? yang hamba tahu PROTON nak test Waja Impian nih kat market UK dulu... thats why gambar2 kete nih kat KLIA... utk penghantaran ke sana... ntahler, kalau utk jualan tempatan mmg akan jadi antara hot selling vehicle of the year kalau rege bawah dari 70k...
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Dengar cerita macam tu jugak, tp mungkin nak released terus kat malaysia pasal permintaan ada.
Tp ada ura2 dengar kalau kat Malaysia tak pakai Mivec tp cuma Gema tuk 1.8cc dan Campro 2.0cc

tp kalau tgk gambar2 kat blog tu mmg kemas la!

ps: post kat atas tu aku amik direct quote dari KITT kat lorat.net!
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mmg kalau utk export proton akan buat sekemas mungkin, kalau utk local market... hmmm...
tuh yang ramai sakit hati ngan proton...
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still spekulate, dengo2 PR proton tgh war tuk tarik gambo ni dari Internet!
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Pakai enjin Mivec, kat gambar plat tu ada no siri enjin Lancer 2.0 (4B11), yang kelakarnya Proton selama ni kutuk2 Perodua kereta rebadge lah, Naza rebadge lah, last2 Proton pun sama, tak nak buat Putra Replacement Model ke, ramai yang menanti tu~ Very Happy
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Ni rebadge tukar suka sama suka Lancer nih tukar ngan Saga,Gen2,Persona sama Exora.
Jngan terkejut nanti gi Taiwan,Jepun dll jumpa kereta2 nih pakai logo Mitsu!
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tak dinafikan kebanyakan kete proton akan nampak lawa bila kena pada make-up dia... Smile

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p/s : selalunya org bising pasal kualiti n relability issue produk proton... bila kuar jerk ada masalah, dh jadi mcm tikus makmal pemilik proton nih... lepas jual baru rectified apa masalah base on komplain pelanggan... yang lagi menyakitkan hati is kete proton yang top2 kualiti dijual kat oberseas dgn harga lebih murah dari local punya market yang mmg x setanding dgn kualiti oberseas punya... sy pernah pki satria UK spec, masa tuh beli baru rm38k, satria local rm40k lebih... kimpalan besi lebih tegap, steel yang dia pki solid, interior lebih kemas, enjin 1.5 n byk lagi extra... hmmm

takut plak aku tgk bila dah make up camtuh...
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Pakai enjin Mivec, kat gambar plat tu ada no siri enjin Lancer 2.0 (4B11), yang kelakarnya Proton selama ni kutuk2 Perodua kereta rebadge lah, Naza rebadge lah, last2 Proton pun sama, tak nak buat Putra Replacement Model ke, ramai yang menanti tu~ Very Happy

PUTRA mmg antara hasil PROTON yang the boom, almaklumler copy 90% mitsu coupe punya, he3... PRM rasanya ada, lotus punya...
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refer to Buletin Utama TV3 :
akhirnya PROTON mengaku dgn projek copy/mix n match dari mitsu lancer kepada Waja Replacement Model TAPI dikecikkan n di buat facelift meggambarkan Proton..

p/s : bykler benda2 akan dibuang... Very Happy
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aku rasa tukar grill depan je kot
hahaha, mmg tak brani nak cakap, cuma kalau berat lagi tu takkan jadik kecik lagi!
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aku rasa tukar grill depan je kot
hahaha, mmg tak brani nak cakap, cuma kalau berat lagi tu takkan jadik kecik lagi!

grill depan sure tukar, belakang rasanya x tukar... saiz akan sama ngan WAJA... Smile
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such a set back, rata2 dlm you tube tunjuk masalah IAFM pada enjin campro BLM baru...

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Apa kata bandingkan model-model proton dengan Kereta buatan Indonesia.

Model 2010 "Tawon" atau Penyengat! PT Super Gasindo Jaya. Dipamerkan pada showcase kereta di Indonesia baru-baru nie. Proton masa tuh ada sekali bawa model konsep Emas.

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Ini pun tak kurang dahsyat... Model TransFormer..

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Transformer real nie bukan main-main...

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atreyudevil wrote:
aku rasa tukar grill depan je kot
hahaha, mmg tak brani nak cakap, cuma kalau berat lagi tu takkan jadik kecik lagi!

grill depan sure tukar, belakang rasanya x tukar... saiz akan sama ngan WAJA... Smile

pasal apa, dengo chassis pon tak buat frame baru, terus amik chassis lancer, cuma bodywork je made in malaysia!
takpe kita tunggu hujung tahun
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such a set back, rata2 dlm you tube tunjuk masalah IAFM pada enjin campro BLM baru...


Takpe2... Tak lama lagi nak keluar campro turbo.
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nampak skrg PROTON dah nak kembali ke zaman mula2 dia balik, rebadge balik kete2 dari mitsu, sedih R&D selama nih mcm terbuang jerk... sepatutnya 25 tahun PROTON menapak di dunia nih dh dewasa dh, dh leh produce sendiri kete dgn identiti n design sendiri, nih nak join n ceduk balik design org... Sad

p/s : tech CAMPRO (cam profiling) adalah tech 15 tahun yang lepas sebelum tech VTEC n VVTI...
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New Proton Waja Lauching on Nov'10 Price: RM80k++

PROTON WALAN (WAJA + LANCER) he3, just jocking

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New Proton Waja Lauching on Nov'10 Price: RM80k++

PROTON WALAN (WAJA + LANCER) he3, just jocking

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Waaa lawa la siut ... kalau betui kan best tapi hari ada dengar berita kat radio ada bagi tahu memang proton nak keluarkan model baru ganti waja dengan kerjasama rakan lama mitsubishi dan ambil dari model lancer kalau tak silap .. cuma dari segi cc enjin jer dikurangkan mungkin 1.6 kot maknanya enjin mitsubishi ada balik laa dalam pasaran proton.
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kalau cc kurang ke 1.6 pakai enjin campro la bro..bukan enjin mitsubishi Wink
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dari tenet :
kalau 2.0 pki enjin mitsu
kalau 1.8 pki enjin GEMA
kalau 1.6 xtau plak kawe...
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1.8 GEMA. 2.0 mivec!
mula2 dengo 2.0 Campro Terbo tp tak jadi pasal dengo CAmpro akan di redesign balik tuk better CO2 emmission ngan Fuel Consumption
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atreyudevil wrote:
1.8 GEMA. 2.0 mivec!
mula2 dengo 2.0 Campro Terbo tp tak jadi pasal dengo CAmpro akan di redesign balik tuk better CO2 emmission ngan Fuel Consumption

CAMPRO problem ngan IAFM dia...
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venez wrote:
nampak skrg PROTON dah nak kembali ke zaman mula2 dia balik, rebadge balik kete2 dari mitsu, sedih R&D selama nih mcm terbuang jerk... sepatutnya 25 tahun PROTON menapak di dunia nih dh dewasa dh, dh leh produce sendiri kete dgn identiti n design sendiri, nih nak join n ceduk balik design org... Sad

p/s : tech CAMPRO (cam profiling) adalah tech 15 tahun yang lepas sebelum tech VTEC n VVTI...

Sebenarnya bukan masalah tak mampu tp lebih kepada partnership,
Mistu pn ada problem nak buat kereta baru waktu gawat dan proton nak kereta baru, jadi win-win situation.
Mitsu nak kereta yg lebih kepada entry level manakala proton nak ganti model dia sedia ada..

pstt member aku kata nanti, nak tgk power proton tunggu Persona Replacement!
hehehe

ps: aku pening la, tgk orang bising proton rebadge kereta mitsu, tp perodua rebadge sikit punya banyak depa tak bising pon!
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atreyudevil wrote:
venez wrote:
nampak skrg PROTON dah nak kembali ke zaman mula2 dia balik, rebadge balik kete2 dari mitsu, sedih R&D selama nih mcm terbuang jerk... sepatutnya 25 tahun PROTON menapak di dunia nih dh dewasa dh, dh leh produce sendiri kete dgn identiti n design sendiri, nih nak join n ceduk balik design org... Sad

p/s : tech CAMPRO (cam profiling) adalah tech 15 tahun yang lepas sebelum tech VTEC n VVTI...

Sebenarnya bukan masalah tak mampu tp lebih kepada partnership,
Mistu pn ada problem nak buat kereta baru waktu gawat dan proton nak kereta baru, jadi win-win situation.
Mitsu nak kereta yg lebih kepada entry level manakala proton nak ganti model dia sedia ada..

pstt member aku kata nanti, nak tgk power proton tunggu Persona Replacement!
hehehe

ps: aku pening la, tgk orang bising proton rebadge kereta mitsu, tp perodua rebadge sikit punya banyak depa tak bising pon!

Perodua baru bape tahun bro, lagipun Dihatsu n Matsui ada share dlm perodua (hampir 40% saham)... Proton 100% m'sia tapi dok canang sana sini kereta national, tuh yang org ramai bising, 25 tahun idup tapi hasil sumer xder identiti sendiri, last2 tambat balik dgn mitsu (terjual lagi saham kat mitsu)... Persona Replacemnt model aku dh tgk, kan ker aku post pasal kete nih aku tgk masa on the way ke KLIA arituh... BTW adik ipar aku bekas Jurutera Proton, byk dia citer kat aku masalah2 PROTON n nape dia belah join Perodua...
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