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PostSubject: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 12:09 pm

Setelah idea mengenai kereta sport (codename Proton Ultimate-tapi jadi Lotus Europa) dan PM5 (gambar di atas) sebelum ini tidak dapat direalisasikan atas faktor-faktor tertentu saya rasa Proton perlu menghidupkan semula projek ini. Pada zaman Tengku Mahaleel dioarang nak jadikan kereta tu sebagai Elise versi Proton tapi faktor kos harga jualan & model sperti ini adalah “niche market”, sukar perkara ini menjadi realiti. Cadangan saya ialah jadikan ia sebagai kereta sport bajet/low cost yang berharga kurang dari RM100 ribu.

Proton boleh membangunkan model ini menggunakan platform dari Satria Neo (kalau boleh “upgrade”), enjin Campro Turbo, gearbox manual 6mt/cvt & benchmark model ini sekurang2nya dengan Mazda RX8. Tidak perlu gunakan composite material untuk kurangkan kos & jadikan model ni 2+2 seater yang lebih praktikal.

Tujuan utama dia bukan untuk jadikan ia sebagai supercar macam Ferrari, Porsche & lain2 tapi adalah untuk membuktikan keupayaan kejuruteraan & membangunkan kereta sport pada harga rendah yang mempunyai enjin berkuasa & pengendalian yang mantap. Saya pasti kereta ini boleh dikategorikan sebagai “Global Bajet Sport Car” dan mampu melonjakkan lagi nama Proton di arena global.

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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 12:18 pm

he3... kalo jadi, ven 1st customer, ek?
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kalau below 100k sure saya sambar... mantap nih...
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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 12:51 pm

tapi lampu belakang bulat2 ni soooo 90s. Skang ni trend squarish/line dgn space kosong tengah2... macam aston martin/jag (camry pon pakat tiru...)
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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 12:54 pm

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Setelah idea mengenai kereta sport (codename Proton Ultimate-tapi jadi Lotus Europa) dan PM5 (gambar di atas) sebelum ini tidak dapat direalisasikan atas faktor-faktor tertentu saya rasa Proton perlu menghidupkan semula projek ini. Pada zaman Tengku Mahaleel dioarang nak jadikan kereta tu sebagai Elise versi Proton tapi faktor kos harga jualan & model sperti ini adalah “niche market”, sukar perkara ini menjadi realiti. Cadangan saya ialah jadikan ia sebagai kereta sport bajet/low cost yang berharga kurang dari RM100 ribu.

Proton boleh membangunkan model ini menggunakan platform dari Satria Neo (kalau boleh “upgrade”), enjin Campro Turbo, gearbox manual 6mt/cvt & benchmark model ini sekurang2nya dengan Mazda RX8. Tidak perlu gunakan composite material untuk kurangkan kos & jadikan model ni 2+2 seater yang lebih praktikal.

Tujuan utama dia bukan untuk jadikan ia sebagai supercar macam Ferrari, Porsche & lain2 tapi adalah untuk membuktikan keupayaan kejuruteraan & membangunkan kereta sport pada harga rendah yang mempunyai enjin berkuasa & pengendalian yang mantap. Saya pasti kereta ini boleh dikategorikan sebagai “Global Bajet Sport Car” dan mampu melonjakkan lagi nama Proton di arena global.

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dah masuk local market ke atau just concept car je ni?
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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 12:59 pm

ni bukan concept pun, hanyalah scale model dibuat oleh proton hadiah untuk Pak Lah, tu nama PM5!
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ni bukan concept pun, hanyalah scale model dibuat oleh proton hadiah untuk Pak Lah, tu nama PM5!
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kekekeke waktu mula keluar dlu mmg keco wooo!
sampai Proton buat released kata benda ni model, tak tau la kalo ada lagi kat Lobi JPM!
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kekekeke waktu mula keluar dlu mmg keco wooo!
sampai Proton buat released kata benda ni model, tak tau la kalo ada lagi kat Lobi JPM!

parcel A ke Parcel B?
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tu tak igt la bro! tp kat Office Jabatan PM la, pasal ni hadiah tuk Pak Lah!
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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 1:44 pm

harap2 jadi kenyataan kete sport nih, bukan per, angin2 hangat dok tiup nih, he3
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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 1:45 pm

kekekeke mintak jadi le, cantuk tu depan corvette blakang aston!
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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 1:57 pm

nih antara hasil R&D proton :

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nih masa 1 ketika dulu Proton Ultimate diuji cuba kat jalan m'sia :

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ni geng2 R&D proton punya main2, tak tahan tgk savvy depa ubah jadik kasut sama satria neo jadik convirtible limo!
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tuhler, R&D Proton mmg cantekk tapi produk sendiri xder... sampai bila nak copycat...
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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyThu 30 Sep 2010, 2:49 pm

mungkin gak depa dah buat cantek2, sampai atas kne scrapp!
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masa zaman mahalel dulu lagiler kena cantas... huk3
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tu tak igt la bro! tp kat Office Jabatan PM la, pasal ni hadiah tuk Pak Lah!

Dekat parcel A .. kalau tak silap masa tu kat blok tgh sebab opis pm kat parcel A.
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mungkin gak depa dah buat cantek2, sampai atas kne scrapp!

bukan mungkin.. memang pun.. budak proton sendiri penah citer..

diorang ni sebenarnyer kreatif.. tak caya? proton pernah buat pertandingan internal tuk design n buat kereta baru dgn gunakan chasis sedia ada + barang2 lebihan dari stock kereta proton.. hasil 4, 5 team tu lawa wooo.. takda rupa kereta proton pun.. mmg org akan ingat kereta import..

citer ni ada mags tau sisipan akhbar cover dulu..
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mungkin gak depa dah buat cantek2, sampai atas kne scrapp!

bukan mungkin.. memang pun.. budak proton sendiri penah citer..

diorang ni sebenarnyer kreatif.. tak caya? proton pernah buat pertandingan internal tuk design n buat kereta baru dgn gunakan chasis sedia ada + barang2 lebihan dari stock kereta proton.. hasil 4, 5 team tu lawa wooo.. takda rupa kereta proton pun.. mmg org akan ingat kereta import..

citer ni ada mags tau sisipan akhbar cover dulu..

mcm contoh kete kuning yang kawe post kat atas tuh, hasil team kreatif sempena hari keluarga R&D Proton...
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PostSubject: Re: Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car   Proton PM5 - Malaysian 1st Sport Car EmptyFri 01 Oct 2010, 9:39 am

yg kuning tu tak pernah tengok plak.. tapi more or less the same lah... diorang memang kreatif tapi bosses kat atas tu yg konservatif.. errr.. jangan konservatif tahap dinosour udah ler.. hancusss
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ven kete ni ada sama macam ni tak?

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Lotus Elise

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- turbocharged 2.0 Liter inline-4 engine pumping 320-horsepower from Toyota (NA version coming after)
- six-speed manual and optional paddle-shifted automatic transmission
- 0 to 100 in 4.3 sec
- 2,409-pound curb weight
- $55,000
- There will also be both hard-and soft-top models on offer
- coming in 2015

Lotus Esprit

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- supercharged 5.0 Liter V8 engine pumping 620-horsepower sourced and modified from Toyota, engine similar to LF-A
- 0 to 100 under 3.5 sec
- coming in 2013
- $175,000
- weights 1,450 kg
- optional KERS system
that makes 4 new concepts. and there's the Elite.

Lotus Elite

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- 5.0-liter V8 sourced and modified from the Lexus IS-F sedan, producing 611 horsepower
- 'unique' automatic transmission
- 0-100 kmh times in 3.6 seconds and 315 km/h (195 mph) top speed
- 1650 kg
- coming 2014
- £115,000 ($180k) price tag

NOTE: None of these are running on the Toyota 2ZZ engine, as Lotus gave Toyota their last Elise R with the last 2ZZ engine.
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