North Korea and South Korea Dispute!

marc_zman wrote:

ROK mmg wat training kat area tuuu... aalaaaaahh... PRK sajer nak carik pasal, sbb dia tahu ROK takan ablas punyerr, paling kuat puunnn bising2 kek dlm opis DMZ tuuuu nanti karang, huh... aku bet, habis semer bebudak yg join national services semer kene panggil, silap2 Rain pun kene... wargghhh har har har.....

abis laaa semua artis2 KS kena panggil report kerahan.. konsert batal aaa.. ekekekeee

Biler konsert kena batal ramai laweks yg nangis heheheh .. memang betui pun sebab kekadang insiden tu boleh settle cara elok tapi dah perangai diorang macam tu .. ermm nasib laa

betul kerr PRK tadak NUKE niiii... betuull keeerrrrr

betul kerr PRK tadak NUKE niiii... betuull keeerrrrr

ROK yg dilaporkan takde Nuke.. PDRK dipercayai ado sedozen Nuke.. ROK rasanyer mmg xder, tapi anytime US bleh deploy Nuke ke semenanjung korea jika perlu.. Pulau Guam pun tak ler jauh sangat.. B52 bleh datang melawat biler2 masa...

update by unknown warrior

Update on what happened:

SK ran navy drills, despite the standard NK warnings not to.
200 shells fired by NK, most hit water.
SK President goes underground in a bunker and says "we'll avoid a war"
80 shells fired back by SK, all hit water, probably aimed at water.
SK President attempts contact of NK to "talk it out". No response from NK.
SK deploys some airplanes, ships ~1300 (1700?) people off the island to safety at inceon
Aftermath:
2 soldiers died of injuries
2 more heavily injured
Civilian deaths not clear. A bunch of civilian injuries.
60-80 houses burning.
Korean won falls 200 points, US dollar increases 40
Rumors circulate:
1.) Kim Jong Il died, his son wanted to display power
2.) Kim Jong Il died, his son was killed by military general in an attempted power grab
3.) SK president planned it all (eh, that one always comes out of SK)
Statements issued by governments:
1.) China: Restraint urged while facts are verified.
2.) US: We strongly condemn NK, please cease fire
3.) Russia: Both Koreas have much to lose, urge cease fire. Condemns NK.
4.) (maybe related?) India puts 36,000 troops on Chinese border.
5.) NK: Warns about another pending "merciless" attack.

Things may change as time goes on. Maybe more wounded found, more deceased, more facts, etc.

Edit: Added timestamp

Timestamp: UTC (UTC) 11/23/10 12:19 PM

Edit 2: A few more facts added in.

Edit 3:

Callistus updates

SK president dismisses rumors of Kim Jong Il's death as groundless
SK president says "As for such attacks on civilians, a response beyond the rule of engagement is necessary. Our military should show this through action rather than an administrative response".
The above appears to be qualified with "if there is any further escalation by NK"

source

AmbitionOfPhillipJFry updates us on the official stances taken by US and China

travishenrichs fixes my wording on NK's threat of "merciless pending attacks". They're qualified with "if SK moves into our sea territory". The two Koreas dispute the maritime border.

Update: some numbers on wounded soldiers: "at least 12 wounded".

Timestamp on edit 3: UTC (UTC) 11/23/10 03:52 PM

US, S.Korea plan war games after N.Korean attack

The United States and South Korea Wednesday announced plans for naval war games as Washington vowed to stand "shoulder to shoulder" with Seoul after one of the worst attacks by North Korea in decades.

In their first joint response to Tuesday's deadly attack on a South Korean island, presidents Barack Obama and Lee Myung-Bak agreed on the military exercises, as pressure built on China to rein in its wayward ally.

South Korea, after decrying an "inhumane atrocity" against defenceless civilians, said it was suspending promised flood aid to North Korea. It has already called off talks on reuniting families split by the Korean War.

The artillery bombardment on Yeonpyeong island, near the disputed inter-Korean Yellow Sea border killed two civilians and two South Korean marines and sent panicked civilians fleeing. Reaction: Outrage among SKoreans over deadly shelling

It fuelled anxiety about North Korea's intentions, days after a new nuclear programme came to light.

Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan called on China to use its "significant influence over North Korea" to tamp down tensions.

A White House statement said Obama telephoned Lee to declare that the United States "stands shoulder to shoulder" with its ally South Korea, which is home to 28,500 US troops.

The two leaders agreed to hold "combined military exercises and enhanced training in the days ahead", the statement said.

The four-day defensive exercise involving a US aircraft carrier will start Sunday in the Yellow Sea, US Forces Korea said.

It said the drill was planned well before the "unprovoked artillery attack" but it demonstrated the US "commitment to regional stability through deterrence".

Media reports said it was the first time the North has shelled South Korean soil and civilian areas since the 1950-53 war. History: Clashes between North and South Korea

Outraged Seoul newspapers urged the government to hit back.

"A club is the only medicine for a mad dog," Dong-A Ilbo said, calling the shelling a "war crime" that demanded a military riposte.

South Korea said it would deploy more artillery on Yeonpyeong after officials announced that the North fired up to 170 artillery shells, of which 80 hit the island and burnt down 19 homes.

Local officials who visited the frontline island released graphic photos of scorched and ruined buildings, with debris littering the streets.

At least 700 people have fled Yeonpyeong, which is home to at least 1,500 civilians and a permanent military base.

The attack "targeted our land and attacked civilians", Lee was quoted by his spokesman as saying. "The number of victims may be small but the meaning is far bigger."

He ordered reinforcements for five frontline islands and told the military to study possible changes to rules of engagement, allowing it to respond more actively to provocations.

China -- North Korea's main ally and economic prop -- has expressed concern but not publicly criticised the North. Its media have given generally sympathetic coverage to Pyongyang's version of events.

North Korea's supreme command accused South Korea of firing first.

"We're going to work with China, we're going to work with all our six-party partners on a response (to the shelling)," US State Department spokesman Mark Toner said, referring to an international group tackling North Korea's nuclear ambitions. Analysis: N.Korea wages war in search of peace pact

The firing came after North Korea's disclosure of an apparently operational uranium enrichment plant -- a second potential way of building a nuclear bomb.

It also comes as North Korea prepares for an eventual succession from Kim Jong-Il to his youngest son Jong-Un. Analysis: N.Korean attack related to succession

"We judged that after revealing the new uranium enrichment facility on November 12, North Korea made the artillery attack to give Kim Jong-Un the status of a strong leader," the South's Defence Minister Kim Tae-Young told parliament.

China is under mounting pressure to intervene, despite its reluctance to do anything to destabilise the regime in Pyongyang.

"We should ask China, which has significant influence over North Korea, to make efforts to jointly restrain North Korean actions," Kan said at a Japanese cabinet task force meeting set up in response to the attack.

Australia called the "outrageously provocative" shelling a threat to the entire region's stability and Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd said: "I believe it's important now for China to bring all of its influence to bear on North Korea."

Tensions have been high since the deadly sinking of a South Korean warship in March, which Seoul blamed on a North Korean torpedo attack. Pyongyang rejects the charge.

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Pulau yg terlibat.

Seriously, u all punya post mcm budak2. NK mcm ada kemampuan nak serang SK...melainkan dgn nuke...tetapi utk apa? NK tu sebuah negara yg dah nak hancur, ia perlukan bantuan itu sebab depa cari pasal.

Kononya NK bersedia utk menyerang SK, fyi, ia takda kuasa konvensional dan takda daya supply pun. Ini semua gembar-gembur korang aje..

US tu memang lah nak belasah NK sebab pada 1953 perang tu berhenti stalemate. Ni nak habiskan NK sebab ia supply senjata kpd negara dan bukan negara.

aku kasi ko satu can nak prove apa yang budak2. Jaga adab sikit kat sini. Ini bukan forum macam yang mungkin kau biasa buat hal.

Ravenshield wrote:Seriously, u all punya post mcm budak2. NK mcm ada kemampuan nak serang SK...melainkan dgn nuke...tetapi utk apa? NK tu sebuah negara yg dah nak hancur, ia perlukan bantuan itu sebab depa cari pasal.

Kononya NK bersedia utk menyerang SK, fyi, ia takda kuasa konvensional dan takda daya supply pun. Ini semua gembar-gembur korang aje..

US tu memang lah nak belasah NK sebab pada 1953 perang tu berhenti stalemate. Ni nak habiskan NK sebab ia supply senjata kpd negara dan bukan negara.

apa yg ko nak sampaikan ni mat?make it clear tang mana yang ko rasa kebudakan..ko punya penyampaian sendiri berterabur sampai aku baca empat lima kali pun still tak paham apa butir ko nak sampaikan..

innocentti wrote:

Ravenshield wrote:Seriously, u all punya post mcm budak2. NK mcm ada kemampuan nak serang SK...melainkan dgn nuke...tetapi utk apa? NK tu sebuah negara yg dah nak hancur, ia perlukan bantuan itu sebab depa cari pasal.

Kononya NK bersedia utk menyerang SK, fyi, ia takda kuasa konvensional dan takda daya supply pun. Ini semua gembar-gembur korang aje..

US tu memang lah nak belasah NK sebab pada 1953 perang tu berhenti stalemate. Ni nak habiskan NK sebab ia supply senjata kpd negara dan bukan negara.

apa yg ko nak sampaikan ni mat?make it clear tang mana yang ko rasa kebudakan..ko punya penyampaian sendiri berterabur sampai aku baca empat lima kali pun still tak paham apa butir ko nak sampaikan..

Dunia mana ler ko datang nie...

ko tanya aku ke stand?hahaha

bila masa plak kita gembar gembur berita nih, kitorang copy n paste berita dari open source n bincang ramai2... xnak jadi world war 3 jerk...

innocentti wrote:ko tanya aku ke stand?hahaha

Buat-buat ler aku tanya kat ko.. err aku tak kenal ramai jeneral, tapi aku tadak apa-apa masalah dengan mana-mana jeneral yang lulus SPM gred 3.

oooooo...ini ke yang pemes tentang general SPM gred 3 tu....padan nick macam familiar aje..ini drebar teksi prebet sapu spm kelulusan am sedang pantau

Ravenshield wrote:Seriously, u all punya post mcm budak2. NK mcm ada kemampuan nak serang SK...melainkan dgn nuke...tetapi utk apa? NK tu sebuah negara yg dah nak hancur, ia perlukan bantuan itu sebab depa cari pasal.

Kononya NK bersedia utk menyerang SK, fyi, ia takda kuasa konvensional dan takda daya supply pun. Ini semua gembar-gembur korang aje..

US tu memang lah nak belasah NK sebab pada 1953 perang tu berhenti stalemate. Ni nak habiskan NK sebab ia supply senjata kpd negara dan bukan negara.

Bukan nyer US stengah mati nak belasah NK... Iraqi Freedom pun US kata 1 mgu jea boleh kalahkan Iraq tp kena drag smpi 1 bulan lebih, itupun guna teknik kotor guna rasuah duit kat general Iraq...
Time start perang korea, SK n UN da kena belasah smpi tgl skangkang kera jea... Itupun SK yg mulakan provokasi...

Ravenshield wrote:Seriously, u all punya post mcm budak2. NK mcm ada kemampuan nak serang SK...melainkan dgn nuke...tetapi utk apa? NK tu sebuah negara yg dah nak hancur, ia perlukan bantuan itu sebab depa cari pasal.

Kononya NK bersedia utk menyerang SK, fyi, ia takda kuasa konvensional dan takda daya supply pun. Ini semua gembar-gembur korang aje..

US tu memang lah nak belasah NK sebab pada 1953 perang tu berhenti stalemate. Ni nak habiskan NK sebab ia supply senjata kpd negara dan bukan negara.

who the heck r u

yaminz wrote:

Ravenshield wrote:Seriously, u all punya post mcm budak2. NK mcm ada kemampuan nak serang SK...melainkan dgn nuke...tetapi utk apa? NK tu sebuah negara yg dah nak hancur, ia perlukan bantuan itu sebab depa cari pasal.

Kononya NK bersedia utk menyerang SK, fyi, ia takda kuasa konvensional dan takda daya supply pun. Ini semua gembar-gembur korang aje..

US tu memang lah nak belasah NK sebab pada 1953 perang tu berhenti stalemate. Ni nak habiskan NK sebab ia supply senjata kpd negara dan bukan negara.

Bukan nyer US stengah mati nak belasah NK... Iraqi Freedom pun US kata 1 mgu jea boleh kalahkan Iraq tp kena drag smpi 1 bulan lebih, itupun guna teknik kotor guna rasuah duit kat general Iraq...
Time start perang korea, SK n UN da kena belasah smpi tgl skangkang kera jea... Itupun SK yg mulakan provokasi...

Bagi kita yg budak-budak tua nie.. beri ler dia peluang jawab dulu soklan muchi...

Seriously, u all punya post mcm budak2. NK mcm ada kemampuan nak serang SK...melainkan dgn nuke...tetapi utk apa? NK tu sebuah negara yg dah nak hancur, ia perlukan bantuan itu sebab depa cari pasal.

rasanya wa ngan bro muchi ada bangkitkan benda yg sama.. jadi, idak ler one sided..

Kononya NK bersedia utk menyerang SK, fyi, ia takda kuasa konvensional dan takda daya supply pun. Ini semua gembar-gembur korang aje..

sapa laaa kita nak gembar gemburkan insiden ni.? cam venz cakap, kita pick up dari laporan media.. mmg akan ader yg risau insiden ni merebak jadi perang besar tapi bukankah kerisauan ini juga dirasai oleh semua orang yg mengikuti perkembangan insiden ni.?

US tu memang lah nak belasah NK sebab pada 1953 perang tu berhenti stalemate. Ni nak habiskan NK sebab ia supply senjata kpd negara dan bukan negara.

yg wa paham n setuju tang stalemate tahun 1953.. ayat yg kedua tu wa lost...

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pihak kerajaan kita dah pertimbangkan seberat berat nyerr nak bawak kuar rakyat kita yg ada kek sana nuunn.... tak bahaye lagiiii ker tuuuu

baru keluar gua kot..

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/11/t...the_koreas.html















An elderly South Korean man wipes his tears as a North Korean relative (in the bus) waves to say good-bye after a luncheon during a separated family reunion meeting at the Mount Kumgang resort on the North's southeastern coast, near the border on October 31, 2010. The reunion program have now been cancelled

dewafrost wrote:hapa laaaaa... tarak baca punya worang.... itu radio sama tv sudah bising2, onko lagiii tada tahuu kaaaa..... itu laaahhh, siang malam asyik duuukkk dlm disko ajerrrr, berkepit, chating intenet, bkn nyer nak surf website yg ada ilmiah, mengaaruuuttt ajerr kijerr, aperr takut kerrr perang meletus, lepas nii tak leh nak enjoy lagii laaahhh, sebab dah perangg.... betuul taakk

pihak kerajaan kita dah pertimbangkan seberat berat nyerr nak bawak kuar rakyat kita yg ada kek sana nuunn.... tak bahaye lagiiii ker tuuuu

pelan untuk bawa pulang warganegara m'sia di sana akan hanya diaktifkan sekiranya perang meletus.. ni mmg gomen dah kata.. cuma wa tulis ni guna ayat sendili.. ayat budak2

opss wei nak tumpang naik Charlie!

tu nak bawak keluar Mymil punya Marine Patrol yg kat bawah nih!!

tak bleh atre.. wa dapat maklumat yg diorang bakal digunakan dlm psyops tuk melekakan anggota-anggota tentera KU.. senang skit KS nak balun kalu diorang kumpul ramai2..

ekekekekeeeee..

marc_zman wrote:tak bleh atre.. wa dapat maklumat yg diorang bakal digunakan dlm psyops tuk melekakan anggota-anggota tentera KU.. senang skit KS nak balun kalu diorang kumpul ramai2..

ekekekekeeeee..

at least wa nak la bawak keluar wa punya batman ehhh batgirl!

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nanti kesunyian plak wa nanti!