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Libya crisis
by yinchet Sun 20 Mar 2011, 6:38 am
Libya crisis: Britain, France and US prepare for air strikes against Gaddafi
Gaddafi loyalists in Libya. The Libyan defence ministry said it would target all air and maritime traffic in the Mediterranean in the event of foreign intervention. Photograph: Mohamed Messara/EPA
British, French and US military aircraft are preparing to defend the Libyan rebel stronghold of Benghazi after Washington said it was ready to support a no-fly zone and air strikes against Muammar Gaddafi's forces.
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Armed with UN mandate for force, Obama warns Gaddafi
US President Barack Obama ordered Colonel Muammar Gaddafi today to implement a ceasefire immediately and stop all attacks on Libyan civilians or face military action from the United States and its allies in Europe and the Arab world.
Gaddafi loyalists in Libya. The Libyan defence ministry said it would target all air and maritime traffic in the Mediterranean in the event of foreign intervention. Photograph: Mohamed Messara/EPA
British, French and US military aircraft are preparing to defend the Libyan rebel stronghold of Benghazi after Washington said it was ready to support a no-fly zone and air strikes against Muammar Gaddafi's forces.
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Jets could take off from French military bases if a no-fly zone is approved in a fresh United Nations security council resolution authorising "all necessary measures short of an occupation force" to protect civilians.
France, which has led the calls for a no-fly zone along with Britain, has offered the use of military bases on its Mediterranean coast about 750 miles from the Libyan coast. Several Arab countries would join the operation.
The finalising of military preparations came as Gaddafi's forces closed in on Benghazi and warned that they would target all maritime traffic in the Mediterranean if they are targeted by foreign forces. In a statement broadcast on Libyan television, the defence ministry said: "Any foreign military act against Libya will expose all air and maritime traffic in the Mediterranean sea to danger and civilian and military [facilities] will become targets of Libya's counterattack."
"The Mediterranean basin will face danger not just in the short-term, but also in the long-term."
Gaddafi has warned Libyan rebels that his forces will invade Benghazi and show no mercy to fighters who resisted them. "No more fear, no more hesitation, the moment of truth has come," the Libyan leader declared, as he warned Benghazi residents that soldiers would search every house in the city and people who had no arms had no reason to fear.
"There will be no mercy. Our troops will be coming to Benghazi tonight."
Residents and a rebel spokesman reported three air strikes on the outskirts of the city on Thursday, including at the airport, and another air raid further south. There was also heavy fighting in residential areas of nearby Ajdabiya, where around 30 people were killed, the TV station al-Arabiya reported.
The increase in Libyan rhetoric came as diplomats intensified their negotiations over a fresh UN security council resolution, tabled by Britain, France and Lebanon, to authorise a no-fly zone. The three countries need the support of a further six further members of the security council – and to avoid vetoes from Russia and China – to pass the resolution.
A security council source said the resolution would impose a no-fly zone over Libya but that was no longer enough. "The resolution authorises air strikes against tank columns advancing on Benghazi or engaging naval ships bombarding Benghazi," he said.
A source at UN headquarters in New York said military forces could be in action soon after a security council resolution calling for states to protect civilians by halting attacks by Gaddafi's forces by air, land and sea. Nato would have to meet after the vote to review the military planning that has already been completed.
The security council was scheduled to vote on the new resolution on Thursday evening and its backers expressed confidence that it would go through after hours of negotiation earlier in the day. The move marks a last-gasp attempt to keep the Libyan uprising alive.
David Cameron spoke to leaders of Arab countries on Wednesday night and on Thursday to persuade them to take part. The US had demanded Arab involvement to ensure that the west could not be accused of imposing its will on the Arab world. The prime minister also spoke to African and European leaders. Nigeria, Gabon, South Africa and Germany currently have seats on the security council.
Speaking outside the UN security council in New York, Alain Juppé, the French foreign minister, said there was "reason to anticipate that some Arab countries will participate." But he said that a land invasion was out of the question. "For us and in the resolution itself there is no question of having people on the ground in Libya."
Germany, which is opposed to a no-fly zone, is expected to abstain. In an interview with the Guardian, Germany's foreign minister, Guido Westerwelle, said Berlin remained strongly opposed to any military intervention in Libya or the use of air strikes against Gaddafi. Westerwelle warned that the consequences of western military intervention were unpredictable and could affect freedom movements in the Arab world.
"Your own instinct is to say 'we have to do something'. But military intervention is to take part in a civil war that could go on for a long time. Germany has a strong friendship with our European partners. But we won't take part in any military operation and I will not send German troops to Libya," he said.
Instead, Westerwelle said there were non-military options that could still be used against Libya, including "targeted sanctions, political pressure and international isolation."
"Considering alternatives to military engagement is not the same as doing nothing," he said. He declined to say what Germany would do before this evening's vote in the UN security council.
A spokesman for David Cameron said: "Clearly there is a race against time at the present time and the situation on the ground is increasingly concerning."
He added: "The prime minister has been making a series of calls on Libya. He has spoken to a number of Arab and African leaders. We can now confirm that he has also spoken to several European leaders.
"In all his calls, the prime minister has made the case for strong action by the UN security council, to increase the pressure on Gaddafi and put a stop to the campaign he is waging against the Libyan people. The prime minister will be making further calls this evening."
After weeks of procrastination by the US, Washington backed the resolution after the Arab League joined the calls for a no-fly zone. The Obama administration was stalled by a split between the secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, who favoured a no-fly zone, and the defence secretary, Robert Gates.
The White House, caught in the middle, dithered. Gates, although opposed to the no-fly zone, redeployed US naval vessels close to the Libyan coast and told the president that the military was capable of fighting on a third front. The US crucially insisted that it would only act if there was Arab support in order to avoid it being seen as purely Western intervention. Several Arab countries have promised to provide planes, but insisted on their identity being withheld until the resolution was passed.
It is unclear whether Middle Eastern countries such as Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar will participate.
Supporters of the resolution, speaking before the vote, said they were confident of achieving the necessary nine votes in the 15-member chamber. A source who was present said China and Russia have indicated they would abstain. Brazil and India have expressed scepticism about military action but their votes are not needed to secure a majority.
John Kerry, chairman of the Senate foreign affairs committee, speaking before the UN vote, said: "The international community cannot simply watch from the sidelines as the Libyan people's quest for democratic reform is met with violence. Time is running out for the Libyan people. The world needs to respond immediately."
William Burns, the US under secretary of state, said Washington supported international measures in Libya that are "short of boots on the ground". Burns told the Senate foreign relations committee that a no-fly zone could have "an important, positive, practical" effect, though Washington was still keen to consider other measures.
William Hague warned that the negotiations at the UN will be tough. "I must not pretend that agreement on this will be easy, even on large elements of it," he said. "We will do our utmost to ensure the passing of a resolution that places the maximum pressure on the Libyan regime and which extends protection to the beleaguered and oppressed civilian population of Libya."
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Armed with UN mandate for force, Obama warns Gaddafi
US President Barack Obama ordered Colonel Muammar Gaddafi today to implement a ceasefire immediately and stop all attacks on Libyan civilians or face military action from the United States and its allies in Europe and the Arab world.
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In one of the most forceful statements he has issued from the White House, Obama said that his demands were not negotiable: Gaddafi had to pull his forces back from major cities in Libya or the United States and its allies would stop him. Obama said that he was forced to act because Gaddafi had turned on his own people and had shown “no mercy on his own citizens”.
Obama said that with the passage on Thursday night of a United Nations Security Council resolution authorizing military action against Gaddafi to protect Libyan civilians, the US would not act alone, and in fact that France, Britain and Arab nations would take the lead.
That is the clear desire of the Pentagon, which has been strongly resistant to another American war in the Middle East. Obama said flatly that American ground forces would not enter Libya.
“Gaddafi has a choice,” he said. “The United States, the United Kingdom, France and Arab states agree that a cease-fire must be implemented immediately. That means all attacks against civilians must stop.”
The UN resolution — which passed with 10 votes, including that of the United States, and abstentions from Russia, China, Germany, Brazil and India — was written in sweeping terms to allow for a wide range of actions, including strikes on air-defense systems and missile attacks from ships.
“Let me be clear, these terms are not negotiable — these terms are not negotiable,” Obama said. “If Colonel Gaddafi does not comply with the resolution, the international community will impose consequences. The resolution will be enforced through military action.”
He set no deadline and gave no hint when the military action would commence, but said that US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton would travel to Paris on Saturday to consult with allies on further action. An allied military strike against Libya did not appear to be imminent.
Specifically, Obama said, Gaddafi must stop his troops from advancing against the town of Benghazi and pull them back from other cities, and water, electricity and gas supplies must be allowed in, as well as other humanitarian aid.
He spoke as the United States, Britain and France pushed forward against Libya on Friday as they declared that a ceasefire abruptly announced by Gaddafi’s government was not enough, and as reports came in from the region of continuing attacks in some places.
Clinton, echoing remarks hours earlier by Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain, said in Washington on Friday morning that the United States would be “not responsive or impressed by words.”’ She said that the allies would “have to see actions on the ground, and that is not yet at all clear.”
Only hours after the United Nations Security Council voted late Thursday to authorize military action and a no-fly zone, Libya executed a remarkable about-face on Friday, saying it would call an “immediate cease-fire and the stoppage of all military operations” against rebels seeking to oust Gaddafi.
But people fleeing the eastern city of Ajdabiya said government forces were still bombing and conducting other assaults.
The announcement of the ceasefire came from Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa. In London, Cameron told the House of Commons that the British Air Force would deploy Tornado jets and Eurofighter Typhoon warplanes, “as well as air-to-air refueling and surveillance aircraft.”
“Preparations to deploy these have already started, and in the coming hours they will move to airbases from where they can take the necessary action,” Cameron said.
Obama administration officials said that allied action against Libya had to include the participation of Arab countries and were insistent, as one senior official put it, that the red, green and black of Arab nations’ flags be prominent in military operations. As of Thursday night, the US said it had firm commitments from both Qatar and the United Arab Emirates to contribute fighter jets to the effort, and that Jordan had also agreed to take part, although to what extent was not yet clear by Friday.
President Nicolas Sarkozy of France and Cameron will attend the meeting in Paris on Saturday with European, European Union, African Union and Arab League officials to discuss Libya, Sarkozy’s office announced. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon of the United Nations will also take part, his office said.
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Re: Libya crisis
by yinchet Sun 20 Mar 2011, 7:51 am
First wave of allied assault on Libyan air defenses
WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. and British ships and submarines launched the first phase of a missile assault on Libyan air defenses, firing 112 Tomahawk cruise missiles Saturday at more than 20 coastal targets to clear the way for air patrols to ground Libya's air force.
In announcing the mission during a visit to Brazil, President Barack Obama said he was reluctant to resort to force but was convinced it was necessary to save the lives of civilians. He reiterated that he would not send American ground troops to Libya.
"We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy," he said in Brasilia.
It was clear the U.S. intended to limit its role in the Libya intervention, focusing first on disabling or otherwise silencing Libyan air defenses, and then leaving it to European and perhaps Arab countries to enforce a no-fly zone over the North African nation.
Navy Vice Adm. William E. Gortney, director of the Pentagon's Joint Staff, told reporters the cruise missile assault was the "leading edge" of a coalition campaign dubbed Operation Odyssey Dawn. Its aim: prevent Moammar Gadhafi's forces from inflicting more violence on civilians -- particularly in and around the rebel stronghold of Benghazi -- and degrading the Libyan military's ability to contest a no-fly zone.
A chief target of Saturday's cruise missile attack was Libya's SA-5 surface-to-air missiles, which are considered a moderate threat to some allied aircraft. Libya's overall air defenses are based on older Soviet technology but Gortney called them capable and a potential threat to allied aircraft.
Also targeted: early warning radars and unspecified communications facilities, Gortney said. The U.S. military has extensive recent experience in such combat missions; U.S. Air Force and Navy aircraft repeatedly attacked Iraq's air defenses during the 1990s while enforcing a no-fly zone over Iraq's Kurdish north.
Cruise missiles are the weapon of first choice in such campaigns; they do not put pilots at risk, and they use navigational technologies that provide good precision.
The first Tomahawk cruise missiles struck at 3 p.m. EDT, Gortney said, after a one-hour flight from the U.S. and British vessels on station in the Mediterranean.
The U.S. has at least 11 naval vessels in the Mediterranean, including three submarines, two destroyers, two amphibious warfare ships and the USS Mount Whitney, a command-and-control vessel that is the flagship of the Navy's 6th Fleet. Also in the area are Navy P-3 and EP-3 surveillance aircraft, officials said.
Gortney said it would take as long as 12 hours to assess the effectiveness of Saturday's strikes. Then a high-altitude Global Hawk unmanned surveillance plane would overfly the target areas to get a more precise view, the admiral said. He would not say how long the attacks on Libyan air defenses would last, but he stressed that Saturday's assault with cruise missiles was the first phase of a multi-stage mission.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who was scheduled to fly to Russia on Saturday afternoon to begin a week-long overseas trip, postponed his departure for 24 hours. Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said Gates decided he should remain in Washington to monitor developments in Libya at the outset of U.S. strikes.
Gates had been skeptical of getting involved in Libya's civil war, telling Congress earlier this month that taking out Libya's air defenses was tantamount to war. Others have worried that the mission could put the U.S. on a slippery slope to deeper involvement in yet another Muslim country - on top of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Hours after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton attended an international conference in Paris that endorsed military action against Gadhafi, the U.S. and Britain kicked off their attacks.
At a news conference in Paris, Clinton said Gadhafi had left the world no choice but to intervene urgently and forcefully to protect further loss of civilian life. "We have every reason to fear that, left unchecked, Gadhafi would commit unspeakable atrocities," she told reporters.
Clinton said there was no evidence that Gadhafi's forces were respecting an alleged cease-fire they proclaimed and the time for action was now.
"Our assessment is that the aggressive action by Gadhafi's forces continues in many parts of the country," she said. "We have seen no real effort on the part of the Gadhafi forces to abide by a cease-fire."
Among the U.S. Navy ships in the Mediterranean were two guided-missile destroyers, the USS Barry and USS Stout, as well as two amphibious warships, the USS Kearsarge and USS Ponce, and a command-and-control ship, the USS Mount Whitney. The submarine USS Providence was also in the Mediterranean.
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WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. and British ships and submarines launched the first phase of a missile assault on Libyan air defenses, firing 112 Tomahawk cruise missiles Saturday at more than 20 coastal targets to clear the way for air patrols to ground Libya's air force.
In announcing the mission during a visit to Brazil, President Barack Obama said he was reluctant to resort to force but was convinced it was necessary to save the lives of civilians. He reiterated that he would not send American ground troops to Libya.
"We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy," he said in Brasilia.
It was clear the U.S. intended to limit its role in the Libya intervention, focusing first on disabling or otherwise silencing Libyan air defenses, and then leaving it to European and perhaps Arab countries to enforce a no-fly zone over the North African nation.
Navy Vice Adm. William E. Gortney, director of the Pentagon's Joint Staff, told reporters the cruise missile assault was the "leading edge" of a coalition campaign dubbed Operation Odyssey Dawn. Its aim: prevent Moammar Gadhafi's forces from inflicting more violence on civilians -- particularly in and around the rebel stronghold of Benghazi -- and degrading the Libyan military's ability to contest a no-fly zone.
A chief target of Saturday's cruise missile attack was Libya's SA-5 surface-to-air missiles, which are considered a moderate threat to some allied aircraft. Libya's overall air defenses are based on older Soviet technology but Gortney called them capable and a potential threat to allied aircraft.
Also targeted: early warning radars and unspecified communications facilities, Gortney said. The U.S. military has extensive recent experience in such combat missions; U.S. Air Force and Navy aircraft repeatedly attacked Iraq's air defenses during the 1990s while enforcing a no-fly zone over Iraq's Kurdish north.
Cruise missiles are the weapon of first choice in such campaigns; they do not put pilots at risk, and they use navigational technologies that provide good precision.
The first Tomahawk cruise missiles struck at 3 p.m. EDT, Gortney said, after a one-hour flight from the U.S. and British vessels on station in the Mediterranean.
The U.S. has at least 11 naval vessels in the Mediterranean, including three submarines, two destroyers, two amphibious warfare ships and the USS Mount Whitney, a command-and-control vessel that is the flagship of the Navy's 6th Fleet. Also in the area are Navy P-3 and EP-3 surveillance aircraft, officials said.
Gortney said it would take as long as 12 hours to assess the effectiveness of Saturday's strikes. Then a high-altitude Global Hawk unmanned surveillance plane would overfly the target areas to get a more precise view, the admiral said. He would not say how long the attacks on Libyan air defenses would last, but he stressed that Saturday's assault with cruise missiles was the first phase of a multi-stage mission.
Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who was scheduled to fly to Russia on Saturday afternoon to begin a week-long overseas trip, postponed his departure for 24 hours. Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said Gates decided he should remain in Washington to monitor developments in Libya at the outset of U.S. strikes.
Gates had been skeptical of getting involved in Libya's civil war, telling Congress earlier this month that taking out Libya's air defenses was tantamount to war. Others have worried that the mission could put the U.S. on a slippery slope to deeper involvement in yet another Muslim country - on top of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Hours after Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton attended an international conference in Paris that endorsed military action against Gadhafi, the U.S. and Britain kicked off their attacks.
At a news conference in Paris, Clinton said Gadhafi had left the world no choice but to intervene urgently and forcefully to protect further loss of civilian life. "We have every reason to fear that, left unchecked, Gadhafi would commit unspeakable atrocities," she told reporters.
Clinton said there was no evidence that Gadhafi's forces were respecting an alleged cease-fire they proclaimed and the time for action was now.
"Our assessment is that the aggressive action by Gadhafi's forces continues in many parts of the country," she said. "We have seen no real effort on the part of the Gadhafi forces to abide by a cease-fire."
Among the U.S. Navy ships in the Mediterranean were two guided-missile destroyers, the USS Barry and USS Stout, as well as two amphibious warships, the USS Kearsarge and USS Ponce, and a command-and-control ship, the USS Mount Whitney. The submarine USS Providence was also in the Mediterranean.
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Re: Libya crisis
by powerw00t Sun 20 Mar 2011, 10:29 am
Aku tak tahu le macamana perangai si gadafi ni, tapi rasanya dia dah banyak bangunkan libya. Cuma bila dah terlalu lama berkuasa, mesti ada pihak yg tak puas hati. Barat pun apa lagi lah, masuk lah jarum.
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Re: Libya crisis
by observateur Sun 20 Mar 2011, 1:46 pm
bagi aku, ni saat kejatuhan yahudi.
"boneka" dema jatuh satu2.....
"boneka" dema jatuh satu2.....
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Re: Libya crisis
by anya8797 Sun 20 Mar 2011, 2:03 pm
katanya the libyans are happy people... gadaffi baru doubled their salary..... betul ke ini semua propaganda media saje..... seeming libya salah satu negara pengeluar minyak terbesar..... 
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Re: Libya crisis
by heavyduty Sun 20 Mar 2011, 2:55 pm
powerw00t wrote:Aku tak tahu le macamana perangai si gadafi ni, tapi rasanya dia dah banyak bangunkan libya. Cuma bila dah terlalu lama berkuasa, mesti ada pihak yg tak puas hati. Barat pun apa lagi lah, masuk lah jarum.
it wouldnt be this way if they didnt target civillians purposely,this is no longer a civil war between two armed factions,specifically targetting civvies is not ok.this is a UN approved mission.
people didnt condemn NATO air strikes in bosnia and kosovo.this is the same situation.except this time the leaders are killing their own people
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Re: Libya crisis
by powerw00t Sun 20 Mar 2011, 6:26 pm
heavyduty wrote:powerw00t wrote:Aku tak tahu le macamana perangai si gadafi ni, tapi rasanya dia dah banyak bangunkan libya. Cuma bila dah terlalu lama berkuasa, mesti ada pihak yg tak puas hati. Barat pun apa lagi lah, masuk lah jarum.
it wouldnt be this way if they didnt target civillians purposely,this is no longer a civil war between two armed factions,specifically targetting civvies is not ok.this is a UN approved mission.
people didnt condemn NATO air strikes in bosnia and kosovo.this is the same situation.except this time the leaders are killing their own people
Generally I am agree that the biggest mistake was (or still currently) asking his armies to eliminate his own people. But the media reported the government just recovered back some key areas taken from the rebels.
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Re: Libya crisis
by yaminz Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:28 am
owh, kompem libya kena serang ehhh... xprasan lak...
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Re: Libya crisis
by marc_zman Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:34 am
double standard
wa ada satu soalan.. kerajaan mana yg merupakan kerajaan SAH di libya.? kerajaan gaddafi tau puak penentang.?
wa ada satu soalan.. kerajaan mana yg merupakan kerajaan SAH di libya.? kerajaan gaddafi tau puak penentang.?
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Re: Libya crisis
by yaminz Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:39 am
marc_zman wrote:double standard
wa ada satu soalan.. kerajaan mana yg merupakan kerajaan SAH di libya.? kerajaan gaddafi tau puak penentang.?
Gaddafi la...
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Re: Libya crisis
by MMW Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:41 am
marc_zman wrote:double standard
wa ada satu soalan.. kerajaan mana yg merupakan kerajaan SAH di libya.? kerajaan gaddafi tau puak penentang.?
Kerajaan yang sah masih lagi kerajaan gaddafi sehinggalah gaddafi terbunuh atau cabut lari macam Hosni Mubarak atau bubar kabinet dan buat pilihanraya baru.
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Re: Libya crisis
by marc_zman Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:43 am
so.. sekarang negara barat menyerang sebuah kerajaan yg sah di sebuah negara yg berdaulat.. cantekkk.. mmg hukum hakam uncle sam
korang compare kan dengan krisis di negara-negara yang bukan musuh us DAN tarak minyak, pastu akan nampak lagi jelas double standard dia
korang compare kan dengan krisis di negara-negara yang bukan musuh us DAN tarak minyak, pastu akan nampak lagi jelas double standard dia
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Re: Libya crisis
by MMW Mon 21 Mar 2011, 9:49 am
marc_zman wrote:so.. sekarang negara barat menyerang sebuah kerajaan yg sah di sebuah negara yg berdaulat.. cantekkk.. mmg hukum hakam uncle sam
korang compare kan dengan krisis di negara-negara yang bukan musuh us DAN tarak minyak, pastu akan nampak lagi jelas double standard dia
Sokong demokratik konon.... BS le. US ni kerajaan HAMAS sah menang pilihanraya di Palestin tak pulak disokongnya sebab HAMAS menentang anak emas dia Israel!!
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Re: Libya crisis
by yaminz Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:02 am
standard barat maaa, nape diorg xnak serang bahrain lak... diorg guna army serang rakyat jelata???
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Re: Libya crisis
by yaminz Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:04 am
Silap besar la barat, nanti jdla lockerbie tragedy brulang
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Re: Libya crisis
by yinchet Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:06 am
credit to robertngo @ LYN
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...litz-Libya.html
Britain ready to kill Gaddafi
Britain is ready to launch a surgical strike to assassinate Colonel Gaddafi. Defence Secretary Liam Fox said yesterday he would sanction a ‘bunker buster’ attack on the Libyan dictator’s lair as long as civilian casualties could be avoided.
Dr Fox vowed to destroy the Libyan dictator’s entire military infrastructure as senior officials privately admitted they want to engineer regime change.
As Britain launched further strikes using Tomahawk cruise missiles last night and RAF strike jets launched a second night of raids, fears grew of ‘mission creep’ in the military assault intended to enforce the United Nations resolution authorising a no-fly zone over Libya.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...litz-Libya.html
Britain ready to kill Gaddafi
Britain is ready to launch a surgical strike to assassinate Colonel Gaddafi. Defence Secretary Liam Fox said yesterday he would sanction a ‘bunker buster’ attack on the Libyan dictator’s lair as long as civilian casualties could be avoided.
Dr Fox vowed to destroy the Libyan dictator’s entire military infrastructure as senior officials privately admitted they want to engineer regime change.
As Britain launched further strikes using Tomahawk cruise missiles last night and RAF strike jets launched a second night of raids, fears grew of ‘mission creep’ in the military assault intended to enforce the United Nations resolution authorising a no-fly zone over Libya.
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Re: Libya crisis
by MMW Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:16 am
Semakin ramai yang nak tumbangkan Gaddafi... semuanya kerana nak menguasai minyak.
Sekiranya dilihat di bawah banyak sungguh forces yang di committed to oust Gaddafi.
Kesimpulannya.... Gaddafi has to go!!
Bataan Amphibious units (with 22nd MEU) dan 26th MEU are being readied?
Are there going to be the invasion of Libya like the invasion of Grenada?
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6013503&c=AME&s=AIR
Sekiranya dilihat di bawah banyak sungguh forces yang di committed to oust Gaddafi.
Kesimpulannya.... Gaddafi has to go!!
Coalition Against Gadhafi Growing
The immediate goal of the combat operations is not to oust Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, but to protect civilians with the establishment of a no-fly zone over Libya's northern regions, Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said while making the rounds of Sunday-morning talk shows,
U.S. forces gathered to conduct military operations against Libya are organized under U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM), commanded by Army Gen. Carter Ham from his headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany. Adm. Samuel Locklear is in tactical command of Joint Task Force Odyssey Dawn aboard the flagship Mount Whitney in the Mediterranean.
The purpose of Operation Odyssey Dawn, according to AFRICOM, "is to enforce U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973, which is centered on protecting Libyan citizens from any further harm from Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's regime."
FIRST STRIKES 'EFFECTIVE'
Forces from the U.S., France, Italy, Canada and the United Kingdom were involved in the initial operations and strikes on Libya on March 19, which included the launch of at least 110 Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles from U.S. surface ships and submarines and one British submarine.
Gortney said on March 20 that more Tomahawks had been launched since then, bringing the total to 124.
The first strikes were aimed at Libya's air defense systems, including SA-2, SA-3 and SA-5 surface-to-air guided missiles, and their guidance radars.
"We judge these strikes to have been very effective in degrading their systems," Gortney said. "There has been no new air activity by the regime," he said. "The fixed missiles, SA-2, 3 and 5, and early warning radars have been taken down and we do not see them emitting."
The attacks were carried out by U.S., British and French strike aircraft, Gortney said, supported by U.S. Navy EA-18G Growler electronic warfare aircraft flying from land bases.
Strikes were also conducted against the Ghadrabiya air base, a joint military and civilian facility, Gortney said. U.S. Air Force B-2 Spirit stealth bombers using joint direct attack munitions (JDAMs) took on the mission, flown from their base at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, he added. A number of military targets at the base were destroyed, he said.
No coalition aircraft have been lost, he noted.
Gortney would not answer questions about specific nations allowing coalition aircraft to operate from their bases or about overflight issues.
Gadhafi's call for a cease fire garnered little respect from Gortney.
"I question anything that Gadhafi calls for," Gortney said. "He moved troops into Benghazi after he called for a cease fire."
Gortney noted growing support for the coalition operations.
"Shortly before I came, in here the Arab League endorsed our enforcement of the no-fly zone," he said.
COALITION GROWING
The coalition supporting the no-fly zone against Libya is growing, Gortney said, and is not limited.
"We'll take as many coalition partners as will commit to do this with us," he said. "We have many nations that are waiting to announce themselves."
More forces from the first five countries are en route to the region, and several other nations have joined the coalition or appear about to join.
Here is a country-by-country breakdown of the forces as of March 20:
UNITED STATES
- Submarines Providence, Scranton and Florida launching Tomahawks.
- Destroyers Barry and Stout launching Tomahawks.
- Amphibious assault ships Kearsarge and Ponce, carrying Marines of the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU).
- Command ship Mount Whitney.
- Support ships Lewis and Clark, Robert E. Peary and Kanawha.
- U.S. Navy aircraft include EA-18G Growler electronic air warfare aircraft, at least four P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft and one EP-3E Aries electronic surveillance aircraft, all flying from land bases in the Mediterranean. Marine Corps AV-8B Harrier jets are operating from the Kearsarge.
- Air Force aircraft include B-2 stealth bombers flying from Missouri and F-15 and F-16 fighters from unspecified bases.
- The Bataan Amphibious Ready Group will deploy from Norfolk,Va., on March 23 ahead of schedule to support Odyssey Dawn operations. The group includes the amphibious ships Bataan, Mesa Verde and Whidbey Island carrying the 22nd MEU.
FRANCE
- Aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle left its base at Toulon March 20 en route to waters off Libya. De Gaulle is carrying 20 aircraft, including Rafale and Super Etendard strike fighters, and is escorted by the destroyers Dupleix and Forbin, frigate Aconit, oiler La Meuse, and an unnamed nuclear attack submarine.
- Destroyer Jean Bart already on the scene.
- French land-based strike aircraft spearheaded the March 19 attacks on Libya.
ITALY
- Destroyer Andrea Doria Frigate Euro Support ship Etna As of early March 20, more ships were to be en route from Italy: Destroyer Francesco Mimbelli; frigate Fenice; patrol ships Libra and Sirio; amphibious ships San Giorgio and San Marco.
- At least 4 Tornado strike aircraft and 4 other combat aircraft are available.
CANADA
- Frigate Charlottetown Six CF-18 Hornet strike fighters Canada's forces are operating as part of Operation Mobile.
UNITED KINGDOM
- Unnamed Trafalgar-class nuclear attack submarine launching Tomahawks.
- Frigates Westminster and Cumberland.
- Typhoon and Tornado strike aircraft operating from Gioia del Colle air base in southern Italy. Tornado GR4s with Storm Shadow cruise missiles took place in the initial strikes on March 19, flying from the Royal Air Force (RAF) base at Marham in Norfolk, eastern England. Agence France-Presse reported the aircraft conducted four mid-air refueling operations during the 3,000-mile, eight-hour mission, the longest Royal Air Force bombing mission since the 1982 Falklands war. The British effort against Libya is dubbed Operation Ellamy.
- Additionally, E3-D Sentry, Sentinel and Tristar surveillance aircraft and VC-10 aerial tankers are operating.
BELGIUM
- Six F-16 fighters to be ready for operations March 21.
DENMARK
- Six F-16 fighters and a transport are operating from Sigonella air base on Sicily.
QATAR
- Four combat aircraft reportedly are in operation by March 20.
SPAIN
- Four F-18 strike fighters are operating from Decimomannu air base on the Italian island of Sardinia.
- One aerial tanker and one CN-235 maritime surveillance plane.
- A submarine and frigate are to deploy this week pending parliamentary approval, according to Deutsche Presse-Agentur.
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
- Strike aircraft are reported en route to Decimomannu air base.
Compiled from reports from U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Africa Command, U.S. Navy, British Ministry of Defence, Canadian Forces, Agence France-Presse and Deutsche Presse-Agentur.
Bataan Amphibious units (with 22nd MEU) dan 26th MEU are being readied?
Are there going to be the invasion of Libya like the invasion of Grenada?http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6013503&c=AME&s=AIR
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Re: Libya crisis
by marc_zman Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:21 am
semua sebab itu BLACK GOLD
kalu libya ni negara papa kedana takde itu black gold
pegi mati laaa semua pemberontak tu
takde nyer diorang nak tolong weh
kalu libya ni negara papa kedana takde itu black gold
pegi mati laaa semua pemberontak tu
takde nyer diorang nak tolong weh
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Re: Libya crisis
by MMW Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:32 am
marc_zman wrote:semua sebab itu BLACK GOLD
kalu libya ni negara papa kedana takde itu black gold
pegi mati laaa semua pemberontak tu
takde nyer diorang nak tolong weh
Macam somalia... sapa nak? Sanggup habis berjuta escort kapal daripada tolong kerajaan nagara tu establish democracy dan bina ekonomi negara tu seterusnya menghapuskan lanun once and for all.. Lanun tu wujud kerana ekonomi hancur dan kerajaan pusat lemah.
Apa yang dibuat itu hanyalah curing not preventing...
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Re: Libya crisis
by MMW Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:35 am
yinchet wrote:credit to robertngo @ LYN
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...litz-Libya.html
Ni sesapa nak cadangkan Malaysia beli 9K33 Osa [SA-8 Gecko] memang nak kena sembelih le......
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Re: Libya crisis
by yaminz Mon 21 Mar 2011, 10:59 am
MMW wrote:yinchet wrote:credit to robertngo @ LYN
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13...litz-Libya.html
Ni sesapa nak cadangkan Malaysia beli 9K33 Osa [SA-8 Gecko] memang nak kena sembelih le......
kena beli S-300 nie...
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Re: Libya crisis
by powerw00t Mon 21 Mar 2011, 11:28 am
Dahle bentuk dia buruk muncung mcm platypus, panjang pulak tu. Btol2 jadik sitting duck.
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Re: Libya crisis
by tin Mon 21 Mar 2011, 11:35 am
powerw00t wrote:Dahle bentuk dia buruk muncung mcm platypus, panjang pulak tu. Btol2 jadik sitting duck.
bentuk dia camtuh sbb nak kasik dia boleh berenang.
OSA nih mmg betol efektif. sayangnya range dia dekat jer...
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Re: Libya crisis
by yaminz Mon 21 Mar 2011, 11:42 am
powerw00t wrote:Dahle bentuk dia buruk muncung mcm platypus, panjang pulak tu. Btol2 jadik sitting duck.
rasa nyer libyan armies x prepared ms kena serang oleh collision...
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