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Post by azim09 Fri 22 Jul 2011, 5:11 pm

https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.detik.com%2Frmaf-new-orbat-program-new-blue-print-policy-t276228.html&h=7AQDzjGDy

pandangan mengenai program MRCA ke 2 & LCS dari seorang pegawai RTAF...
(p.s- sila baca sampai habis )
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Post by observateur Fri 22 Jul 2011, 6:11 pm

azim09 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.detik.com%2Frmaf-new-orbat-program-new-blue-print-policy-t276228.html&h=7AQDzjGDy

pandangan mengenai program MRCA ke 2 & LCS dari seorang pegawai RTAF...
(p.s- sila baca sampai habis )

very interesting read.

betul ke ration air:land/maritime strike of those 4 a/cs?

Cif Ven boleh komen?
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Post by pcboss Fri 22 Jul 2011, 6:18 pm

azim09 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.detik.com%2Frmaf-new-orbat-program-new-blue-print-policy-t276228.html&h=7AQDzjGDy

pandangan mengenai program MRCA ke 2 & LCS dari seorang pegawai RTAF...
(p.s- sila baca sampai habis )

suddenly, everyone got a 'friend' in RMAF.... lol
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Post by koirazie2 Fri 22 Jul 2011, 6:19 pm

azim09 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.detik.com%2Frmaf-new-orbat-program-new-blue-print-policy-t276228.html&h=7AQDzjGDy

pandangan mengenai program MRCA ke 2 & LCS dari seorang pegawai RTAF...
(p.s- sila baca sampai habis )

menarik gak analisis vympel tu..kematu gak nak ngabeh kan mbacer nye
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Post by observateur Fri 22 Jul 2011, 6:53 pm

koirazie2 wrote:
azim09 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.detik.com%2Frmaf-new-orbat-program-new-blue-print-policy-t276228.html&h=7AQDzjGDy

pandangan mengenai program MRCA ke 2 & LCS dari seorang pegawai RTAF...
(p.s- sila baca sampai habis )

menarik gak analisis vympel tu..kematu gak nak ngabeh kan mbacer nye

ada logik, tapi kita ada cif Ven utk verify.... unless OSA..opps
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Post by skyline Fri 22 Jul 2011, 7:00 pm

emm good link...ada gak sentuh bab cruise misile

so adakah bakal SH nanti akan equipped dgn cruise misile JSOW, JASSM, or SLAM-ER??adakah US Congress akan meluluskan package tersebut selain dari AESA?

so far selain dari SH, hanya rafale je yg capable launch cruise missile

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Post by sCorpene Fri 22 Jul 2011, 7:58 pm

susah untuk dapatkan package tersebut...
tertakluk kepada congress US
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Post by heavyduty Fri 22 Jul 2011, 8:10 pm

all candidates are capable of lauching cruise missiles

SCALP-froggies rafale and RAF & AMI typhoons
Taurus-luftwaffe and SPAF typhoons and Saab Gripens

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Post by venez Fri 22 Jul 2011, 8:49 pm

observateur wrote:
azim09 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.detik.com%2Frmaf-new-orbat-program-new-blue-print-policy-t276228.html&h=7AQDzjGDy

pandangan mengenai program MRCA ke 2 & LCS dari seorang pegawai RTAF...
(p.s- sila baca sampai habis )

very interesting read.

betul ke ration air:land/maritime strike of those 4 a/cs?

Cif Ven boleh komen?

hu3, panjang gilos analisa dia... masih belum sempat baca terpeinci lagi...
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Post by heavyduty Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:42 pm

hmmm not so sure about the prices he is giving.

the F16 block 60 and MIG-35 are wayyy too cheap and the gripen mark up kaw kaw.the C version costs 40mil how can the NG double the price?

btw,he's in a foreign air force but he sure knows a lot of info.chair force sure likes to talk
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Post by powerw00t Fri 22 Jul 2011, 9:53 pm

perggh.... mmg bagus kupasan si vympel tu, humble but straight.
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Post by atreyudevil Fri 22 Jul 2011, 10:02 pm

powerw00t wrote:perggh.... mmg bagus kupasan si vympel tu, humble but straight.


tp ada jugak yg nak try cucuk langit tu woo!
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Post by powerw00t Fri 22 Jul 2011, 10:08 pm

atreyudevil wrote:
powerw00t wrote:perggh.... mmg bagus kupasan si vympel tu, humble but straight.


tp ada jugak yg nak try cucuk langit tu woo!

itu dari jenis orang yg percaya 'man behind the gun' sebagai ultimate action yg menjurus pada kemenangan total.
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Post by heavyduty Fri 22 Jul 2011, 10:17 pm

atreyudevil wrote:
powerw00t wrote:perggh.... mmg bagus kupasan si vympel tu, humble but straight.


tp ada jugak yg nak try cucuk langit tu woo!

ada gak sket RTAF STRONGG!! tapi memang tempat kerja dia,xkn xnk sokong
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Post by mumuchi Fri 22 Jul 2011, 10:44 pm

ini vymple sama yang kat cari dulu ka?
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Post by observateur Sat 23 Jul 2011, 12:40 am

venez wrote:
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azim09 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.detik.com%2Frmaf-new-orbat-program-new-blue-print-policy-t276228.html&h=7AQDzjGDy

pandangan mengenai program MRCA ke 2 & LCS dari seorang pegawai RTAF...
(p.s- sila baca sampai habis )

very interesting read.

betul ke ration air:land/maritime strike of those 4 a/cs?

Cif Ven boleh komen?

hu3, panjang gilos analisa dia... masih belum sempat baca terpeinci lagi...

hehe... takpe. Pelan2 kayuh bos!

Apa2 pun jgn lupa komen pasal posting si vympel. Ramai yg nak dgr input...
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Post by mmmbop Sat 23 Jul 2011, 1:03 am

Jap jap..aku baca page 1 je pjg sgtla. Xtau ada smbgn lg ke tak psl RMAF kt page 2. Aku tak tau mamat ni betul ke dr RTAF tp penah nmpk gakla dlm cari dulu. Bg aku mcm fishy sket komen dia. Maksud aku hampir sume yg dia dah cakap dah diketahui ramai, dah ada dlm byk discussion.

Contoh pasal difference Su-30mkm/mk2 tu. Dah byk perbincangan, termasukla kenapa kita punya ada canard sebab berat berlebihan Bars. Psl nak streamline 2 feter pon dah tau. Super Hornet favourite pon dah tau lama dah. Mostly sebab commonality, bkn sebab politik.

Yg baru nye cuma:

1. Dia kata kita dah sign LOI SH & Boeing dah announce? Bila masa?

2. Then dia kata 6 Chesue baru pon dah dpt LOI? tak dengar plak cite.

3. Evaluation ratio result & ratio 50:50 tu aku xtau mana dia dpt.

4. Then takkan procurement baru member RMAF kasi bocor kat member negara luar? kalo result evaluation tu pon aku tak pasti bole ke x bgtau

5. Lastly, distribution plane tu betul ke tak wallahualam. Mcm yg lain tggu ven jugak jwb

Tp aku ada byk sceptic dgn ini mamat

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Post by observateur Sat 23 Jul 2011, 1:06 am

mmmbop wrote:Jap jap..aku baca page 1 je pjg sgtla. Xtau ada smbgn lg ke tak psl RMAF kt page 2. Aku tak tau mamat ni betul ke dr RTAF tp penah nmpk gakla dlm cari dulu. Bg aku mcm fishy sket komen dia. Maksud aku hampir sume yg dia dah cakap dah diketahui ramai, dah ada dlm byk discussion.

Contoh pasal difference Su-30mkm/mk2 tu. Dah byk perbincangan, termasukla kenapa kita punya ada canard sebab berat berlebihan Bars. Psl nak streamline 2 feter pon dah tau. Super Hornet favourite pon dah tau lama dah. Mostly sebab commonality, bkn sebab politik.

Yg baru nye cuma:

1. Dia kata kita dah sign LOI SH & Boeing dah announce? Bila masa?

2. Then dia kata 6 Chesue baru pon dah dpt LOI? tak dengar plak cite.

3. Evaluation ratio result & ratio 50:50 tu aku xtau mana dia dpt.

4. Then takkan procurement baru member RMAF kasi bocor kat member negara luar? kalo result evaluation tu pon aku tak pasti bole ke x bgtau

5. Lastly, distribution plane tu betul ke tak wallahualam. Mcm yg lain tggu ven jugak jwb

Tp aku ada byk sceptic dgn ini mamat

itu lah yg wa musykil... macam senang2 je RMAF officer cite kat dia.

Sebab tu input cif Ven sgt2 dihajati.... harap2 bukan OSA. hehe
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Post by koirazie2 Sat 23 Jul 2011, 1:16 am

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mmmbop wrote:Jap jap..aku baca page 1 je pjg sgtla. Xtau ada smbgn lg ke tak psl RMAF kt page 2. Aku tak tau mamat ni betul ke dr RTAF tp penah nmpk gakla dlm cari dulu. Bg aku mcm fishy sket komen dia. Maksud aku hampir sume yg dia dah cakap dah diketahui ramai, dah ada dlm byk discussion.

Contoh pasal difference Su-30mkm/mk2 tu. Dah byk perbincangan, termasukla kenapa kita punya ada canard sebab berat berlebihan Bars. Psl nak streamline 2 feter pon dah tau. Super Hornet favourite pon dah tau lama dah. Mostly sebab commonality, bkn sebab politik.

Yg baru nye cuma:

1. Dia kata kita dah sign LOI SH & Boeing dah announce? Bila masa?

2. Then dia kata 6 Chesue baru pon dah dpt LOI? tak dengar plak cite.

3. Evaluation ratio result & ratio 50:50 tu aku xtau mana dia dpt.

4. Then takkan procurement baru member RMAF kasi bocor kat member negara luar? kalo result evaluation tu pon aku tak pasti bole ke x bgtau

5. Lastly, distribution plane tu betul ke tak wallahualam. Mcm yg lain tggu ven jugak jwb

Tp aku ada byk sceptic dgn ini mamat

itu lah yg wa musykil... macam senang2 je RMAF officer cite kat dia.

Sebab tu input cif Ven sgt2 dihajati.... harap2 bukan OSA. hehe

dia buat je cerita dogeng...apa susah.. What a Face What a Face
p/s lgi satu aku tengok dia punya statement vympel tu mc provok malaysia dan indo* je..entahlah....
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Post by observateur Sat 23 Jul 2011, 1:24 am

koirazie2 wrote:
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itu lah yg wa musykil... macam senang2 je RMAF officer cite kat dia.

Sebab tu input cif Ven sgt2 dihajati.... harap2 bukan OSA. hehe

dia buat je cerita dogeng...apa susah.. What a Face What a Face
p/s lgi satu aku tengok dia punya statement vympel tu mc provok malaysia dan indo* je..entahlah....

provoke Msia-Indo....

Memang alliance Msia-Indo, esp atas nama serumpun, akan sgt digeruni jiran2 di Asia Tenggara.
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Post by mmmbop Sat 23 Jul 2011, 1:37 am

Satu lg kita dah tau cif shahab ada ckp F18D tgh kaw2 kena upgrade. Ada logik ke kita nak trade-in lepas kuar duit gilos byk? Vympel xde sentuh plak pasal Hornet upgrade dari "member" rapat dia tu Very Happy

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Post by observateur Sat 23 Jul 2011, 1:43 am

mmmbop wrote:Satu lg kita dah tau cif shahab ada ckp F18D tgh kaw2 kena upgrade. Ada logik ke kita nak trade-in lepas kuar duit gilos byk? Vympel xde sentuh plak pasal Hornet upgrade dari "member" rapat dia tu Very Happy

hehehe... tulah

takkan RMAF mau cerita semua, kan?

Mungkin juga ada cerita yg ditambah utk disinformation. Mungkin juga info yg vympel terima dah outdated....
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Post by blankrasta Sat 23 Jul 2011, 2:01 am

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Post by mmmbop Sat 23 Jul 2011, 2:42 am

Aku dah belek page 2, baru ada nampak sket. Aku rasala ni Malaysian disguise as Thais for disinformation + suka suki nak kenakan dorang Laughing

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Post by powerw00t Sat 23 Jul 2011, 7:17 am

walopun cerita dalam tu banyak spelling error tapi ok gak, dia punya psychowar kat web ada membuahkah hasil yg menghasilkan sikit faktor pengerun.
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