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Re: Vietnam War from the lenses
aku citer ringkas2 ajerrr, sbb nak telly dgn apa yg Heavy cuba sampai kan....
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Re: Vietnam War from the lenses
Dlm perang vietnam, both side mlakukan kekejaman bukan stakat VC or NVA saja...
Tp kerajaan vietnam selatan ketika tu mmg penuh korupsi.
Tp kerajaan vietnam selatan ketika tu mmg penuh korupsi.
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nak wat mcm mana.... kalau tak sambao, rugiii.... gituuu lerrrrr....
tapi kesian kat ambasador US kat sana, bermati matian utk mendapatkan bantuan dari kerajaan US utk bantu RVN....
tapi kesian kat ambasador US kat sana, bermati matian utk mendapatkan bantuan dari kerajaan US utk bantu RVN....
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Re: Vietnam War from the lenses
the vietnam war showed the bad side of the american youth and anti-war protesters overall
most of the anti war protesters at the time were upper middle class college douchebags
they weren't protesting because they love peace but protested because they didn't want to be drafted and leave their cushy lives
and most of the draft dodgers went to the best country in the world,canada and ruined that place for everyone else
when the draft was suspended in 72' protests suddenly went quiet eventhough the US didnt leave vietnam until 75'.why?
the situation is the same in malaysia currently with the PLKN program.the teenagers and their parents aren't opposed to the program because its full of corruption but because they are yellow bellied cowards
what did the opposition promise if they get to putrajaya?to fix and improve PLKN?
heck no.they promised to abolish it and everyone started being happy.
most of the anti war protesters at the time were upper middle class college douchebags
they weren't protesting because they love peace but protested because they didn't want to be drafted and leave their cushy lives
and most of the draft dodgers went to the best country in the world,canada and ruined that place for everyone else
when the draft was suspended in 72' protests suddenly went quiet eventhough the US didnt leave vietnam until 75'.why?
the situation is the same in malaysia currently with the PLKN program.the teenagers and their parents aren't opposed to the program because its full of corruption but because they are yellow bellied cowards
what did the opposition promise if they get to putrajaya?to fix and improve PLKN?
heck no.they promised to abolish it and everyone started being happy.
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well said bro.... well said.... heheheheee
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heavyduty wrote:the vietnam war showed the bad side of the american youth and anti-war protesters overall
most of the anti war protesters at the time were upper middle class college douchebags
they weren't protesting because they love peace but protested because they didn't want to be drafted and leave their cushy lives
and most of the draft dodgers went to the best country in the world,canada and ruined that place for everyone else
when the draft was suspended in 72' protests suddenly went quiet eventhough the US didnt leave vietnam until 75'.why?
the situation is the same in malaysia currently with the PLKN program.the teenagers and their parents aren't opposed to the program because its full of corruption but because they are yellow bellied cowards
what did the opposition promise if they get to putrajaya?to fix and improve PLKN?
heck no.they promised to abolish it and everyone started being happy.
like
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Re: Vietnam War from the lenses
heavyduty wrote:the vietnam war showed the bad side of the american youth and anti-war protesters overall
most of the anti war protesters at the time were upper middle class college douchebags
they weren't protesting because they love peace but protested because they didn't want to be drafted and leave their cushy lives
and most of the draft dodgers went to the best country in the world,canada and ruined that place for everyone else
when the draft was suspended in 72' protests suddenly went quiet eventhough the US didnt leave vietnam until 75'.why?
the situation is the same in malaysia currently with the PLKN program.the teenagers and their parents aren't opposed to the program because its full of corruption but because they are yellow bellied cowards
what did the opposition promise if they get to putrajaya?to fix and improve PLKN?
heck no.they promised to abolish it and everyone started being happy.
hhhmm..interesting HD...
anya tau muhammad ali pernah masuk penjara sebab taknak pergi.... but then later he was represented as a symbol of peace gitu....
it's not about fighting for peace really....
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Re: Vietnam War from the lenses
it was because of his religion.he was a Conscientious objector
same as quakers
these guys are usually exempt from draft or serve in a non combat capacity
college students suddenly becoming conscientious objectors while taking weed and LSD?
same as quakers
these guys are usually exempt from draft or serve in a non combat capacity
college students suddenly becoming conscientious objectors while taking weed and LSD?
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dewafrost wrote: biar saya ringkas kan cerita pasal trajedi ofensiv TET ni,
utk pengetahuan kak anya, TET ni sebenarnya adalah satu perayaan bagi org vietnam, jadi pihak selatan atau RVN mengadakan gencatan senjata dgn pihak utara NVA utk menghormati perayaan ini, namun pihak NVA langsung tak amik pot pasal perayaan ni, mereka mengambil kesempatan di atas kealpaan pihak RVN beraya sakan dgn melancar satu serangan ofensiv yg berskala besar, bukan hanya tertumpu pada sesuatu tempat, tapi seluruh RVN, namun serangan tersebut hanya di jalankan oleh anggota gerila bawah tanah saje atau VC, bukan regular army NVA, ketika bermaharajalela, VC ni mengambil tindakan undang2 mengikut kehendak sendiri, menangkap rakyat2 dan membunuh mereka tanpa sebab dan bicara, ini merupakan kesilapan yg amat besar di lakukan oleh VC, mereka tidak mendapat sebarang bantuan dari rakyat jelata.
namun, serangan yg di buat oleh VC ni agak tidak teratur, jadi tak lama selepas bermulanya ofensiv mereka pihak RVN segera bangkit dan melancarkan serangan balas, dlm pertempuran kali ini banyak memakan korban pihak VC sendiri, hampir 10k raser nyer, berbanding dgn pihak RVN dgn sekutu jumlah nya agak sedikit, rasa2nyer dlm ratusan sahaja, namun kemusnahan harta dan org awam agak tinggi laaahh sbb VC ni jahat ( hehehehe, sama mcm PKM tuuu ).....
sbb tuu Heavy cakap, media banyak gembar gemburkan pasal TET nii, mcm satu kegagalan RVN dgn sekutunya, sedangkan apa yg patut di dedahkan seperti kemusnahan harta dan nyawa org awam tuuu pandang remeh ajerrrr....
Okay...kejap ye, correct me if i'm wrong... VC tuh sebenarnya part of NVA tapi beroperasi secara gerila bawah tanah....Oo barulah kak anya faham... mekasih DF...
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Okay...kejap ye, correct me if i'm wrong... VC tuh sebenarnya part of NVA tapi beroperasi secara gerila bawah tanah....Oo barulah kak anya faham... mekasih DF...
VC are south vietnam communists.they were made up of mostly south vietnamese citizens
but they are in the same structure and organization as the regular NVA
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heavyduty wrote:anya8797 wrote:
Okay...kejap ye, correct me if i'm wrong... VC tuh sebenarnya part of NVA tapi beroperasi secara gerila bawah tanah....Oo barulah kak anya faham... mekasih DF...
VC are south vietnam communists.they were made up of mostly south vietnamese citizens
but they are in the same structure and organization as the regular NVA
NVa tuh..bukan north vietnam army ke?...
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Re: Vietnam War from the lenses
yes
VC did most of the propaganda and espionage while the NVA was conventional warfare
VC did most of the propaganda and espionage while the NVA was conventional warfare
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Rasernyer kan .. gambar yg pertama nie ada kisah dier .. kira gambar nie famous sikit sebab kisah disebaliknyer ..
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xnampak gambar lak...
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mylai ke SH?
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heavyduty wrote:it was because of his religion.he was a Conscientious objector
same as quakers
these guys are usually exempt from draft or serve in a non combat capacity
college students suddenly becoming conscientious objectors while taking weed and LSD?
While some Americans dodge the draft, there were also Canadians who enlists in U.S military and fought in Nam too...
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aiihhh... demam vietnam wars kerrr niii... hehehehehee...
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Sebab kat History tengah tayang Vietnam : The Lost Films....
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aku larat tengok 1st nite aja..bila dah masuk bab Hell No! We won't go! maleh dah nak tengok Cabut bermaruah US tu ekekeke!
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Perlu diingatkan, nampak macam kalah tetapi US telah menang sebenarnya dalam menentang tentera2 vietcong tersebut.
Terima kasih kepada Rambo.
Terima kasih kepada Rambo.
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mana ada kalah power...CABUT Bermaruah ekekekeke!
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dewafrost wrote:aiihhh... demam vietnam wars kerrr niii... hehehehehee...
Patut le kebelakangan ni aku kerap layan lagu Fortunate Son (CCR) sama Paint It Black
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