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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
mungkinkah sejarah terpaksa berulang kembali dan hanya waktu tu baru ada kesedaran kita serumpun?
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hmmmmmmm!
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hmmmmmmm!
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Semalam dalam NST ada cerita psal Long Pasia, dan abah wa mulakan dia punya flashback.
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dlm gambar ni dia tunjuk yang kebanyakan bangunan kem lama masih dikekalkan. Padang tu dlu ialah airfield, salah satu aktiviti tuk bagi fit ialah tarik steamroller tuk airfield tu. Semua ni kawasan kem dlu, a large camp that can accommodate about 2000 soldier. Kampung sini dlu ada dalam 2 long house about 40 family.
Complete sini dengan Air Cond sama supply Coca-Cola. Waktu konfrontasi Long Pasia pn kene serang dengan TNI, tp tak banyak tahu.
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dlm gambar ni dia tunjuk yang kebanyakan bangunan kem lama masih dikekalkan. Padang tu dlu ialah airfield, salah satu aktiviti tuk bagi fit ialah tarik steamroller tuk airfield tu. Semua ni kawasan kem dlu, a large camp that can accommodate about 2000 soldier. Kampung sini dlu ada dalam 2 long house about 40 family.
Complete sini dengan Air Cond sama supply Coca-Cola. Waktu konfrontasi Long Pasia pn kene serang dengan TNI, tp tak banyak tahu.
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Kempen Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia (1962-1966)
29 Dis 1964 -- Lukisan karikatur Presiden Indonesia Presiden Sukarno berbadan ayam jantan yang bertulis “ Sebelum 1 Januari Malaysia Akan Di Ganyang ” berikutan kempen konfrontasi oleh kerajaan Indonesia di Malaysia.
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25 Sept 1964 -- Poster yang menyeru rakyat Malaysia untuk menyertai Pasukan Kawalan dan bersatu padu menghancurkan musuh.
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25 Sept 1964 -- Poster yang menyeru rakyat Malaysia untuk bersatu padu menghancurkan musuh dengan menjauhi khabar angin.
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29 Dis 1964 -- Lukisan karikatur Presiden Indonesia Presiden Sukarno berbadan ayam jantan yang bertulis “ Sebelum 1 Januari Malaysia Akan Di Ganyang ” berikutan kempen konfrontasi oleh kerajaan Indonesia di Malaysia.
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25 Sept 1964 -- Poster yang menyeru rakyat Malaysia untuk menyertai Pasukan Kawalan dan bersatu padu menghancurkan musuh.
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25 Sept 1964 -- Poster yang menyeru rakyat Malaysia untuk bersatu padu menghancurkan musuh dengan menjauhi khabar angin.
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
femes sangt citer konfrontasi kat mesia kat indo banyak x tau
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
Hangpa cuba try cari buku ni.. aritu aku baca kt Library Shah Alam.. best jugak la.. kupasan2, quote2 menarik rentetan peristiwa sebelum, semasa dan selepas konfrontasi...
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Title: Konfrontasi Malaysia Indonesia
Author: Nik Anuar Nik Mahmud
ISBN: 9789679424539
Kandungan buku ini mendedahkan konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia terjadi ekoran daripada persetujuan Tunku dengan MacMillan untuk menubuhkan Malaysia yang mengandungi Tanah Melayu, Singapura, Brunei, Sarawak dan Sabah (Borneo Utara) pada 31 Ogos19831963. Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia tamat hasil rundingan cemerlang antara Tun Abdul Razak dan Tan Sri Ghazalie Shafie dengan Tun Adam Malik, Menteri Luar Indonesia dan jeneral Ali Moertopo di Bangkok dan Jakarta...
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
powerw00t wrote:tin wrote:tableh itu mcm bro...
history is written by winners.history is written by winners
bluffs is written by losers.
Dorang dah pun membuktikannya dgn fakta2 songsang.
Aku suka ayat ni, power!!!
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
2 Okt 1968 -- Perdana Menteri Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra, diiringi Residen Tawau Ben Stephen, menemui rakyat Tawau yang berkumpul di Lapangan Terbang Tawau untuk membantah tindakan Presiden Filipina Ferdinand Marcos menuntut Sabah dari Malaysia. Tunku Abdul Rahman berada di Sabah selama tiga hari untuk bertemu pemimpin dan rakyat negeri tersebut.
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Britain's Secret War : The Indonesia–Malaysia confrontation 1962-1966
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
Why it is called a british secret war?
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
Fasal ia tidak diiktiraf sebagai peperangan rasmi dan dianggap sebgai keadaan konfrontasi saja. Hence the name Confrontation.
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
aku ada dengar dari sumber yg ntah betul ntah tidak...dulu masa confrontation ni british dah sedia 2 bijik alvaro vulcan kan nak bom indo*???? ada sapa2 bleh confirm??
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
Rasanya ya tapi Tunku tak kasi fasal tak mo kita lak masuk negeri orang. Cuba gugel TAR dan bombing indonesia.
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
bukan nyer Konfrantasi da tamat dulu bro, misi dbatalkan...
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UK heavy bomber masa konfrantasi? 2 bijik avro vulcan? errr.. me think its more then that laaa.. more like 2 flight tau detachment.. coz ada citer kata itu heavy bomber ada 'melawat' Butterworth AB kat Malaya.. Tengah AB kat Spore.. & ada satu AB kat utara Oz.. so me think its more then 2 lah if needed
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nope.. dari apa yg wa paham.. itu heavy bomber akan hanya di deploy sekiranya pihak indonesia 'declare' all out war dgn Malaysia.. sebelum konfrantasi start pun kalu x salah itu heavy bomber mmg ada sekali sekala turun sini.. kene ingat UK mmg ada byk kepentingan kat asia masa tu.. & masa tu pun komunis tgh berkembangyaminz wrote:bukan nyer Konfrantasi da tamat dulu bro, misi dbatalkan...
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nope la, british amalkan restricted rules of engagement, Indonesia TNI-AU bom dulu baru British RAF/RAAF bom...marc_zman wrote:nope.. dari apa yg wa paham.. itu heavy bomber akan hanya di deploy sekiranya pihak indonesia 'declare' all out war dgn Malaysia.. sebelum konfrantasi start pun kalu x salah itu heavy bomber mmg ada sekali sekala turun sini.. kene ingat UK mmg ada byk kepentingan kat asia masa tu.. & masa tu pun komunis tgh berkembangyaminz wrote:bukan nyer Konfrantasi da tamat dulu bro, misi dbatalkan...
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adey.. apparraaa.. mmg ler masa tu British ada appled restricted rules of engagement.. tapi.. kalu negara yg sedang berkonfrantasi dgn kita pi hantar pesawat dia kasik bom kita secara terbuka.. tebabooooo dia pi bom kem tau pangkalan udara tau laut tentera kita.. errr.. tu bukan kira "declare" all out war ka?yaminz wrote:nope la, british amalkan restricted rules of engagement, Indonesia TNI-AU bom dulu baru British RAF/RAAF bom...marc_zman wrote:nope.. dari apa yg wa paham.. itu heavy bomber akan hanya di deploy sekiranya pihak indonesia 'declare' all out war dgn Malaysia.. sebelum konfrantasi start pun kalu x salah itu heavy bomber mmg ada sekali sekala turun sini.. kene ingat UK mmg ada byk kepentingan kat asia masa tu.. & masa tu pun komunis tgh berkembangyaminz wrote:bukan nyer Konfrantasi da tamat dulu bro, misi dbatalkan...
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kalau ikutkan logik memang la tak dapat nak musnahkan setiap inci tanah indo* dgn alvaro vulcan, maybe juz nak bom tempat2 strategik kat indo* je biau indo* lumpuh.....kalau tak sialap la....cerita ni pon khabar angin taufan jugak, ntah betul ntah tak..hehemarc_zman wrote:UK heavy bomber masa konfrantasi? 2 bijik avro vulcan? errr.. me think its more then that laaa.. more like 2 flight tau detachment.. coz ada citer kata itu heavy bomber ada 'melawat' Butterworth AB kat Malaya.. Tengah AB kat Spore.. & ada satu AB kat utara Oz.. so me think its more then 2 lah if needed
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mumuchi wrote:Rasanya ya tapi Tunku tak kasi fasal tak mo kita lak masuk negeri orang. Cuba gugel TAR dan bombing indonesia.
kan bang muchi??? rasa2 la kalau la jadi british bom indo* ni dulu apa impaknya pada masa kini???
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emmm.. pernah terbaca dlm internet - tapi kesahihan sumber citer ni leh dipersoalkan - kata nyer kat Tengah AB tu dulu British ada buat tempat khusus tuk simpan nuke bomb.. wallahu'alamlkick2113 wrote:kalau ikutkan logik memang la tak dapat nak musnahkan setiap inci tanah indo* dgn alvaro vulcan, maybe juz nak bom tempat2 strategik kat indo* je biau indo* lumpuh.....kalau tak sialap la....cerita ni pon khabar angin taufan jugak, ntah betul ntah tak..hehemarc_zman wrote:UK heavy bomber masa konfrantasi? 2 bijik avro vulcan? errr.. me think its more then that laaa.. more like 2 flight tau detachment.. coz ada citer kata itu heavy bomber ada 'melawat' Butterworth AB kat Malaya.. Tengah AB kat Spore.. & ada satu AB kat utara Oz.. so me think its more then 2 lah if needed
coz wa tak jumpa lagik cross reference yg mengiyakan citer tu.. maka wa susah nak caya
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Re: Konfrontasi Malaysia-Indonesia 1962-66
Ok ini citer V bombers dari
Versi british
Dan
Versi OZ
Versi british
Dan
Versi OZ
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