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Post by yaminz Fri 27 Jul 2012, 10:30 am

standupper wrote:Sebab tuh BASICnya kalau nak buat apa-apa investigative report.. jangan buat laporan sepihak... kena dengar dari dua-dua pihak.. maklumat dari pengadu, sahkan maklumat aduan dengan turun padang, lihat dengan mata dan dengar dengan telinga sendiri dan dapatkan maklumbalas daripada pihak yang berkenaan. Sebabnya reporter/ journalist bukan Doktor, Lawyer, Majistret atau Ahli Muzik!

Kalau perkara paling asas pun tak boleh ikut.. maknanya diorg nie sekadar penulis yang buat karangan atau cerita fiksyen. Dari aspek organisasi.. sah makan gaji buta diorg punya gatekeeper.


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Post by standupper Fri 27 Jul 2012, 10:38 am

mumuchi wrote:Kalau editorial direction memang macam tu, still kira gaji buta ka hehehehe!...kan editor kasi greenlight to print Razz



ala sama itu kes ribut topan ler clown

Tuh pasal gatekeeper memang makan gaji buta... kesannya kredibliti paper jadi bahan lawak... isu macam nie KTMB pun malas nak saman... sepatutnya bukan jadi bahan berita.. tapi letak kat katogeri sama dengan kerja pam tayar keretapi, gosok gigi rimau, jadi tukang kebun dalam hutan...
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Post by marc_zman Fri 27 Jul 2012, 10:47 am

errr.. bang mochi.. atas saranan wak stand.. mohon dialihkan post asal wa tu dulu ke benang Lawak MyMil.. ekekekekeeee.. gurau weh

wak stand.. komen wa simple jer.. dah nama pun akhbar politik.. tapi wa paham maksud wa tu
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Post by Faceman Fri 27 Jul 2012, 11:36 am

samuraisan wrote: Very Happy wa kerap jugak guna public transport ni cuma Metro Bus wa malas nak naik.. pernah wa bawak ofismate naik kete dari KL ke Kelana Jaya station lepas tu naik shuttle bas ke Tropicana City Mall nak jumpa client.. ofismate wa bengang padahal boleh trus ke depan Damansara Kim tu..
wa cakap sama dia ' u tak pernah naik bas kan ni masa dia kita naik bas'... Laughing clown

pernah sekali wa bawa estonian naik kete lepas tu parking kat Titiwangsa naik Monorail gi Raja Chulan..pening estonian tu..
wa cakap sama dia "welcome to kuala lumpur" Very Happy

kadang2 naik public transport ni menyeronokkan.. Very Happy

dah biasa naik train kat jepang wa mesti naik LRT ke Monorail ke Komuter seminggu beberapa kali... lepas gian. Razz

naik keretapi lagi best cuma KTM kena upgrade jenis2 coach.. hatta di Vietnam ada jenis train coach lebih baik yang KTM tawarkan sape dah sampai SAPA Vietnam tahu:D

koniciwa otosan,,

watashi pon suka naik tren,,best wooo
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Post by longisland Fri 27 Jul 2012, 12:28 pm

Ok sedikit berita tentang projek Ipoh-Padang Besar dipetik dari Business Times:

Ipoh-Padang Besar job about 85pc complete
By OOI TEE CHING
Published: 2012/07/27
SMOOTH-RUNNING: MMC-Gamuda JV says the RM12.48b electrified double-tracking project is running ahead of schedule

THE Ipoh-Padang Besar electrified double-tracking railway project (EDTP) is about 85 per cent into completion on an overall basis, said MMC-Gamuda Joint Venture Sdn Bhd director (technical) Datuk Mohd Nor Idrus.

When Business Times met up with him here recently, he said the RM12.48 billion project, which runs through Perak, Penang, Kedah and Perlis, was ahead of schedule.

The railway project, which began in January 2008, is expected to be completed by the end of 2014.

While the project is described as the laying and electrification of a 329km-long double track to replace the existing single track that runs from Ipoh to Padang Besar, Mohd Nor explained that the multitude of construction works was a lot more complex.

This, he said, was because the tracks were designed to serve the current and future needs of Keretapi Tanah Melayu Bhd (KTMB).
There will be new stations, depots, KTM quarters and bridges in addition to the electrification of the railway tracks and automation of the train signalling system.

In keeping the railway route as straight and level as possible, he said numerous bridges were being built. The new railway tracks will also run through tunnels.

“We are building 66 flyovers, nine underpasses and 74 bridges. To curb illegal crossings, we have also been instructed by the government to build 50 motorcycle and pedestrian crossings throughout the railway lines.

“There will be 23 stations, including halts. The seven big stations in Perak, Penang, Kedah and Perlis will have small stations in between them,” he added.

As the EDTP enters its last leg of implementation, the next step is to incorporate a railway signalling system to control traffic flows along the rail tracks and prevent train wagons from colliding.

One of the main objectives of the railway signalling system is to help KTMB migrate its manual signalling and communication system to a computerised one.

Train movements will eventually be directed through remote switches and signals instead of timetables and train orders, with the number one priority being safety.

“The traffic control computer software is designed to be fail-safe, eliminating any conflicting commands that can cause a head-on crash or the trains going off-track,” he said.

Ultimately, KTMB will be kept constantly aware of the position of each train through the control centre. Complex algorithms in the signalling system are also being designed to calculate the halting distance between trains on any kind of track, whether single, double or even triple.

To date, Mohd Nor said system work was about 55 per cent into completion with design, procurement, installation and testing advancing ahead of schedule.

All three divisions of system work; namely electrification, communications and signalling, are progressing smoothly with system vendor Balfour Beatty-Ansaldo Systems working diligently on the project.”

Mohd Nor said the double-tracking and electrification of the Ipoh-Padang Besar stretch was the government’s initiative to continue work already done on the 180km Ipoh-Rawang route. The other completed tracks are Rawang-Seremban (105km); Sentul-Port Klang (45km); and Sentul-Batu Caves (7.5km).

“With double railway tracks, KTM trains will be able to operate in both directions at the same time and that cuts down waiting time,” he said.


For example, the travelling time between Kuala Lumpur and Butterworth will shorten to three hours from the current nine hours.

The project also aims to improve KTM’s earnings by increasing its existing rolling stock and enhancing the efficiency of its cargo wagons through a renewed focus on containerised and long-haul freight transportation.

KTM will be able to offer its corporate clients more frequent services to move bulky commodities like cement, chemicals and rubber products between Penang Port and southern Thailand.

This will significantly boost socio-economic development in rural and suburban areas by enhancing accessibility for tourism and commercial activities, thereby creating direct and indirect employment opportunities for local residents.

Mohd Nor noted that the EDTP sought to reduce over-reliance on road transport with more frequent inter-city travel. Eventually, it is hoped that there will be a reduction in petrol subsidy and a drop in road fatalities due to fewer cars on the road.

The project is also an ideal training ground to produce a new breed of Malaysian engineers.

In a separate interview, MMC-Gamuda Joint Venture senior planning manager Mohd Nizam Daut and tunnel manager Ng Hau Wei shared their experiences.

“Compared with my peers of similar years in the workforce, I am proud that I have been given the opportunity to work on large-scale multi-billion projects in Malaysia such as the EDTP (Ipoh–Padang Besar). It has sharpened my management skills and given me the confidence to take on even bigger projects, locally and internationally,” said Nizam, who has prior experience working on the Ipoh-Rawang line.

Ng, on the other hand, recalled how his tunnelling team had to deal with “live traffic” when building the 3.3km twin tunnels cutting through Bukit Berapit, between Taiping and Padang Rengas.

Apart from subjecting themselves to confined spaces while drilling and controlled blasting through the mountain, they had to navigate their way beneath the North-South Expressway and an existing trunk road that connects Kuala Kangsar to Taiping.

“When constructing a tunnel, we are very much aware that we have only one access and that there must be adequate ventilation at all times. Comprehensive safety standards have to be in place to prevent any possibilities of gas combustion that might escalate to an explosion,” he said.

Ng, who started his career in tunnel engineering about 11 years ago, was part of the specialised team that built the Stormwater Management and Road Tunnel (SMART) in the Klang Valley, which is the world’s first dual-purpose stormwater and highway tunnel.

The SMART project used state-of-the-art slurry shield tunnel boring machines.

Lately, his team has been instrumental in constructing the twin bore Berapit Tunnels and the Larut Tunnel using the “drill and blast” approach.

Today, out of the 200 Malaysian tunnel engineers who worked on SMART, 120 are working on the electrified railway double-tracking project.

“Looking back, I feel that I am lucky to be given the opportunity to contribute to major infrastructure projects here and gain valuable hands-on exposure in tunnel engineering,” said Ng.

“If there is but one wish for me, I would want to be remembered for my role in these national projects.”

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Post by longisland Fri 27 Jul 2012, 12:32 pm

Ini juga dipetik dari Business Times: Tapi betul ke perlu? Nampak macam ianya bakal megukuhkan lagi Singapura sebagai logistikal hub di rantau ini kalau projek ini berjalan.

High-speed rail talks with Singapore to start soon
Sharen Kaur

LINKING INTEREST: Certain parties from the island city-state have ‘informally’ approached he Land Public Transport Commission about the project, says chairman


DISCUSSIONS between Malaysia and Singapore on the high-speed rail project linking Kuala Lumpur and the island city-state is expected to commence soon, says a key official from the Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD).

According to SPAD chairman Tan Sri Syed Hamid Albar, certain parties from Singapore have “informally” approached the commission on the high-speed rail project.

“The high-speed rail is for Malaysia. It is an exciting project. If the government decides to go ahead with the project, the engagement will be at the top level. There are many parties interested in the project.

“There are certain decisions that need to be made by the government like whether the high-speed rail will link Kuala Lumpur and Johor Baru, or Singapore.

“SPAD will put forward its recommendations to the government after completing the feasibility study. The government will have 2012 to make its own decision before approaching Singapore. The study is positive so far,” Syed Hamid said at the commission’s Buka Puasa event here yesterday.

SPAD is in the second phase of a feasibility study, which looks into the corridors, alignment, terminal points and the stops in-between.

Its chief development officer Azmi Abdul Aziz said the high-speed rail is targeted to start next year with tenders to be called by end-2013.

When asked to comment on the expected cost for the project, Azmi said it was still being finalised.

“This is not a direct turnkey project. It may be carried out as a private finance initiative or public private partnership. There is excitement from the corporate, public and the government sectors, from both neighbours (Malaysia and Singapore),” Azmi said.

Azmi, however, confirmed that 95 per cent of the investments for the project would be domestic-driven.

About 60 per cent of the cost will go towards infrastructure development, including civil works and track laying, and about 30 per cent towards rolling stocks.

Sources said the final cost would depend on whether the project would involve an underground rail link between the two neighbouring countries.

“It will also depend on the alignment in Malaysia. The length of the high-speed rail link is expected to be between 300km and 400km. We have to see how many stations are needed,” the source told Business Times.

The high-speed rail network has been highlighted as a high-impact project in the government’s Economic Transformation Programme.

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Post by yinchet Fri 27 Jul 2012, 1:35 pm

It would be beneficial for us as well.
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Post by longisland Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:30 pm

yinchet wrote:It would be beneficial for us as well.
Boleh beri pencerahan.
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Post by atreyudevil Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:52 pm

air route KL SG adalah salah satu paling sibuk dlm Asia
jadi biasanya kereta api laju ni lagi praktikal dari terbang.

Dan Kerajaan jepun tgh buat study sama ada mereka akan tanggung perbenlajnaan keretapi laju di Malaysia, jika sykt mereka dapat byk benefit mungkin segala pembinaan ditanggung Jepun sebagaimana LRT (kalau tak silap) di Jakarta!
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Post by marc_zman Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:56 pm

atreyudevil wrote:air route KL SG adalah salah satu paling sibuk dlm Asia
jadi biasanya kereta api laju ni lagi praktikal dari terbang.

Dan Kerajaan jepun tgh buat study sama ada mereka akan tanggung perbenlajnaan keretapi laju di Malaysia, jika sykt mereka dapat byk benefit mungkin segala pembinaan ditanggung Jepun sebagaimana LRT (kalau tak silap) di Jakarta!

persoalan yg lagi penting.. apakah benefit yg negara kita dpt dari projek sedemikian? adakah ia akan menguntungkan rakyat & negara? atau memberi kelebihan kepada singapura?

sila buat esei dgn panjang karangan paling kureng 1,001 patah perkataan.. ekekekeee
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Post by samuraisan Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:03 pm

atreyudevil wrote:air route KL SG adalah salah satu paling sibuk dlm Asia
jadi biasanya kereta api laju ni lagi praktikal dari terbang.

Dan Kerajaan jepun tgh buat study sama ada mereka akan tanggung perbenlajnaan keretapi laju di Malaysia, jika sykt mereka dapat byk benefit mungkin segala pembinaan ditanggung Jepun sebagaimana LRT (kalau tak silap) di Jakarta!

LRT di Jakarta biar betul ko Abu..

keretapi kut.. Arrow



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Post by atreyudevil Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:09 pm

tu tulis kalo tak silap
LRT or Keretapi, but all the cost bared by the gomen of jepang
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Post by yinchet Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:59 pm

To be short,
We are able to attract more investment from Singapore.
More than that, Foreigner whose used to invest in Singapore might be attracted to invest in Malaysia as well.
Easier and faster transit btw Malaysia and Singapore will improve business btw Malaysia and Singapore even more.
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Post by yinchet Fri 27 Jul 2012, 4:01 pm

atreyudevil wrote:tu tulis kalo tak silap
LRT or Keretapi, but all the cost bared by the gomen of jepang

nope, they only give soft loan with low interest rate. with a condition of Japanese company must be included in the development.
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Post by atreyudevil Fri 27 Jul 2012, 4:10 pm

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Post by longisland Fri 27 Jul 2012, 4:20 pm

yinchet wrote:To be short,
We are able to attract more investment from Singapore.
More than that, Foreigner whose used to invest in Singapore might be attracted to invest in Malaysia as well.
Easier and faster transit btw Malaysia and Singapore will improve business btw Malaysia and Singapore even more.

On the flip side:
It will solidify the position of Singapore (Changi) as an air transport hub of the region thus relegating further the position of Malaysian's own aspiration to be a challenger to the status quo.

It will also solidify the position of Singapore ports to be the hub for movements of goods now that they have easy access to the so call hinterland.

More brain drain will occur in Malaysia's job market since access to inbound and outbound talent will make Singapore their place to reside due to lesser bureaucracy.

At least that's how i see it.
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Post by marc_zman Fri 27 Jul 2012, 4:23 pm

longisland wrote:
yinchet wrote:To be short,
We are able to attract more investment from Singapore.
More than that, Foreigner whose used to invest in Singapore might be attracted to invest in Malaysia as well.
Easier and faster transit btw Malaysia and Singapore will improve business btw Malaysia and Singapore even more.

On the flip side:
It will solidify the position of Singapore (Changi) as an air transport hub of the region thus relegating further the position of Malaysian's own aspiration to be a challenger to the status quo.
It will also solidify the position of Singapore ports to be the hub for movements of goods now that they have easy access to the so call hinterland.

More brain drain will occur in Malaysia's job market since access to inbound and outbound talent will make Singapore their place to reside due to lesser bureaucracy.

At least that's how i see it.

correctomando? Razz
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Post by mumuchi Fri 27 Jul 2012, 6:51 pm

Forget oledy plosper thy neighbour? Cool
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Post by longisland Fri 27 Jul 2012, 7:09 pm

mumuchi wrote:Forget oledy plosper thy neighbour? Cool
Should not be at our expense and our national goal.
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Post by yinchet Fri 27 Jul 2012, 8:57 pm

longisland wrote:
yinchet wrote:To be short,
We are able to attract more investment from Singapore.
More than that, Foreigner whose used to invest in Singapore might be attracted to invest in Malaysia as well.
Easier and faster transit btw Malaysia and Singapore will improve business btw Malaysia and Singapore even more.

On the flip side:
It will solidify the position of Singapore (Changi) as an air transport hub of the region thus relegating further the position of Malaysian's own aspiration to be a challenger to the status quo.

It will also solidify the position of Singapore ports to be the hub for movements of goods now that they have easy access to the so call hinterland.

More brain drain will occur in Malaysia's job market since access to inbound and outbound talent will make Singapore their place to reside due to lesser bureaucracy.

At least that's how i see it.

it work both way,
Bullet train unlikely to enhance the movements of goods. as it were not about cargo to begin with.
Brain drain is a harder 1 to avoid even without bullet train but it could work both way, with Singapore is properties and rental getting more expensive there might be a possible for Singapore investor to invest in KL instead.
Malaysian who work at Singapore were also able to enjoy easier rides to home.
It would also spur up KL to be shopping heaven for Singaporean.
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Post by panah hikmat Sat 28 Jul 2012, 12:10 pm

Sebenarnya projek mengadakan perkhidmatan keretapi laju seperti di negara Jepun telah lama dibincangkan sejak YTL 'buka mulut'. Ianya dirancang menggunakan laluan baru (pantai barat Semenanjung Malaysia) dan hanya akan 'sebumbung' dengan jajaran KTMB yang ada sekarang di Stesen Kempas Sentral bersama LRT Johor Bahru dan MRT Pasir Gudang - Tanjung Pelepas. PH rasa benda ni masih dalam perbincangan walaupun kajiannya telah lama dibuat sama seperti Projek Landasan Pantai Timur yang bermula dari Stesen Rawang melalui Stesen Bentong, Stesen Temerloh, Stesen Kampung Awah, Stesen Maran, Stesen Gambang, Stesen Kuantan (Atabara), Stesen Balok, Stesen Chukai, Stesen Kerteh, Stesen Dungun, Stesen Kuala Terengganu, Stesen Kampung Buloh, Stesen jerteh, Stesen Pasir Puteh, Stesen Bachok dan Stesen Kemasin sebelum berakhir di Stesen Kota Bharu (yang terletak di Kemumin - sebelah airport yang ada sekarang). Kita tunggu dah lihat ajelah kerana tak mahu lihat perkara serupa berlaku macam landasan dari Kuantan ke Kerteh sejauh 72 km, terbiar begitu saja selepas perkhidmatan keretapi barang dihentikan.

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oit.. bukan itu cermin bulat ka? biler masa dia membusat jadik petak? scratch

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Cermin yang bulat guna untuk 'cover' tren EMU yang menggunakan 3 gerabak. Cermin petak yang besar ni pula boleh 'cover' tren EMU 6 Gerabak, SCS dan ETS sama.

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Post by longisland Tue 31 Jul 2012, 11:39 am

Walaupun ini tak ada kene mengena dengan KTM tapi kerana ianya sebahagian dari pengangkutan awam maka saya tepek kat sini juga.

Semuanya perlukan kan duit. Tak ada duit ontok je la.


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Tan Sri Samsudin Hopes Monorail Project In Putrajaya Will Continue

PUTRAJAYA, July 30 (Bernama) -- Tan Sri Samsudin Osman, who will end his service as President of Putrajaya Corporation tomorrow, has expressed hope that the monorail project in Putrajaya will continue to be implemented to help overcome traffic congestions in the government administrative centre.

Although disappointed that the project was not completed during his tenure, he said bus service alone could not fully meet the needs of users in Putrajaya as buses would get stuck in traffic too.

"We have set the target that only 30 per cent of the residents and workers here will use private transport.

"The remaining 70 per cent should be using public transport, but it has yet to become a reality.

"When the monorail system is in place, we can impose restrict the inflow of cars to Putrajaya and InsyaAllah (God willing), this will reduce the traffic congestion we are facing today," he said in a special interview at his office here.
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Post by marc_zman Tue 31 Jul 2012, 11:53 am

longisland wrote:Walaupun ini tak ada kene mengena dengan KTM tapi kerana ianya sebahagian dari pengangkutan awam maka saya tepek kat sini juga.

Semuanya perlukan kan duit. Tak ada duit ontok je la.


Bernama Online News
Tan Sri Samsudin Hopes Monorail Project In Putrajaya Will Continue

PUTRAJAYA, July 30 (Bernama) -- Tan Sri Samsudin Osman, who will end his service as President of Putrajaya Corporation tomorrow, has expressed hope that the monorail project in Putrajaya will continue to be implemented to help overcome traffic congestions in the government administrative centre.

Although disappointed that the project was not completed during his tenure, he said bus service alone could not fully meet the needs of users in Putrajaya as buses would get stuck in traffic too.

"We have set the target that only 30 per cent of the residents and workers here will use private transport.

"The remaining 70 per cent should be using public transport, but it has yet to become a reality.

"When the monorail system is in place, we can impose restrict the inflow of cars to Putrajaya and InsyaAllah (God willing), this will reduce the traffic congestion we are facing today," he said in a special interview at his office here.

bukan duit sahaja tapi 'pelanggan @ pengguna' pun kena ada Razz

yg wa tau mmg dah ada jaringan rel monorail kat putrajaya ni.. sepanjang tau seluas mana? wallahu'alam.. wa dimaklumkan yg benda tu mmg dah dibuat masa mula buat pusat pentadbiran federal gomen ni.. cuma perkhidmatan tu tak diadakan dulu kerana.. antaranya.. faktor pengguna.. ialah kan, kalu dah start serice tapi pelanggan @ pengguna tarak camna nak rolling duit plak

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Post by longisland Tue 31 Jul 2012, 12:01 pm

marc_zman wrote:
longisland wrote:Walaupun ini tak ada kene mengena dengan KTM tapi kerana ianya sebahagian dari pengangkutan awam maka saya tepek kat sini juga.

Semuanya perlukan kan duit. Tak ada duit ontok je la.


Bernama Online News
Tan Sri Samsudin Hopes Monorail Project In Putrajaya Will Continue

PUTRAJAYA, July 30 (Bernama) -- Tan Sri Samsudin Osman, who will end his service as President of Putrajaya Corporation tomorrow, has expressed hope that the monorail project in Putrajaya will continue to be implemented to help overcome traffic congestions in the government administrative centre.

Although disappointed that the project was not completed during his tenure, he said bus service alone could not fully meet the needs of users in Putrajaya as buses would get stuck in traffic too.

"We have set the target that only 30 per cent of the residents and workers here will use private transport.

"The remaining 70 per cent should be using public transport, but it has yet to become a reality.

"When the monorail system is in place, we can impose restrict the inflow of cars to Putrajaya and InsyaAllah (God willing), this will reduce the traffic congestion we are facing today," he said in a special interview at his office here.

bukan duit sahaja tapi 'pelanggan @ pengguna' pun kena ada Razz

yg wa tau mmg dah ada jaringan rel monorail kat putrajaya ni.. sepanjang tau seluas mana? wallahu'alam.. wa dimaklumkan yg benda tu mmg dah dibuat masa mula buat pusat pentadbiran federal gomen ni.. cuma perkhidmatan tu tak diadakan dulu kerana.. antaranya.. faktor pengguna.. ialah kan, kalu dah start serice tapi pelanggan @ pengguna tarak camna nak rolling duit plak

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Kadang-kadang faktor pengguna itu faktor kedua. Contoh macam LRT Star sewaktu mula-mula lunch mana ada volumn sangat. Tetapi setelah sekian lama baru volumn dengan sendirinya mula bertambah. Ini sama kes macam telur ayam atau ayam dulu. Dalam kes Putrajaya, perancangan bandar memang sudah memasukkan monorail sebagai sebahagian dari masterplan. Jadi , kiranya selagi tak siap monorail, boleh kata Putrajaya tak lengkap lagi.
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Post by marc_zman Tue 31 Jul 2012, 12:12 pm

longisland wrote:Kadang-kadang faktor pengguna itu faktor kedua. Contoh macam LRT Star sewaktu mula-mula lunch mana ada volumn sangat. Tetapi setelah sekian lama baru volumn dengan sendirinya mula bertambah. Ini sama kes macam telur ayam atau ayam dulu. Dalam kes Putrajaya, perancangan bandar memang sudah memasukkan monorail sebagai sebahagian dari masterplan. Jadi , kiranya selagi tak siap monorail, boleh kata Putrajaya tak lengkap lagi.

aye aye.. selagi tak penuhi semua perkara dlm masterplan, mmg ler tak kan lengkap putrajaya ni

cuma kalu nak banding ngan star lrt tu wa rasa ada skit perbezaan situasi nyer.. anyway.. sama-sama kita nantikan kemunculan perkhidmatan monorail putrajaya yg entah biler tu + tak tau sampai mana.. iyo laaa kan.. wa yg keje putrajaya ni pun masih dok kolumpo lagik.. ekekekeee
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